Start: 2010-11-12 17:13:25

2010-11-12 17:13:25 Zorg : Welcome to LegCon... 3 I think.
2010-11-12 17:13:29 Scott : yup
2010-11-12 17:13:44 Zorg : This one is about a whole manner of stuff, we're going to run through gangs chosen topics and such first.
2010-11-12 17:13:49 Zorg : And then get on to a couple I want to mention
2010-11-12 17:14:09 Scott : Before we start can I ask all reps to follow the colour code
2010-11-12 17:14:14 KevinMp : Done :)
2010-11-12 17:14:16 jonkers : DF ?
2010-11-12 17:14:20 kukker : tc
2010-11-12 17:14:25 Scott : Yellow for Bod, Red for DF, Green for OC and blue for TC
2010-11-12 17:14:30 Risque : OC's done
2010-11-12 17:14:30 JoeBloggs : Elders???
2010-11-12 17:14:33 Ross : elders...
2010-11-12 17:14:35 LordofD : Done already
2010-11-12 17:14:36 Altiar : done
2010-11-12 17:14:38 JayDerZ : testing
2010-11-12 17:14:38 Scott : Staff will be purple and elders will be grey
2010-11-12 17:14:38 zerocomman : red
2010-11-12 17:14:43 kukker : blue!
2010-11-12 17:14:44 Jobu : .
2010-11-12 17:14:47 Scott : However be aware we have criss cross reps
2010-11-12 17:14:51 JoeBloggs : Ayt
2010-11-12 17:15:00 Tibos : df
2010-11-12 17:15:09 Scott : Anyone who is unable to speak simply double click on your gang reps name
2010-11-12 17:15:16 Scott : and send them a message to speak on behalf of you
2010-11-12 17:15:34 Zorg : Ok, so I flipped a 4 sided coin and Blade of Dawn get to go first.
2010-11-12 17:15:39 Scott : I have invited staff along this time to give input on areas :P
2010-11-12 17:15:40 Risque : WHAT?!
2010-11-12 17:15:42 KevinMp : Haha! 10 points! xD
2010-11-12 17:15:42 Zorg : ..with anything they wish to discuss.
2010-11-12 17:15:50 LordofD : wait a sec :/
2010-11-12 17:15:50 JoeBloggs : Thought OC was first?
2010-11-12 17:15:50 bcfcespley : oc first
2010-11-12 17:15:53 Risque : That is NOT what I was told!!!
2010-11-12 17:15:55 Toyic : I thought OC was promised first?
2010-11-12 17:15:58 Jobu : lol
2010-11-12 17:16:00 LordofD : Scott said OC would go first
2010-11-12 17:16:02 Zorg : Why do OC think they're first?
2010-11-12 17:16:07 KevinMp : i also recall somewhere it being stated that OC goes first :O
2010-11-12 17:16:09 Jobu : Scott said so
2010-11-12 17:16:09 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 17:16:09 Pie : Scott said in the blog
2010-11-12 17:16:11 Risque : Becasue Csott told us!
2010-11-12 17:16:14 Scott : because last legcon we skipped them last by accident XD
2010-11-12 17:16:14 Risque : *Scott
2010-11-12 17:16:15 LordofD : because We were cut off last Con
2010-11-12 17:16:16 Tibos : Why can Toyic talk? :P
2010-11-12 17:16:19 JoeBloggs : Lack of communication FTW
2010-11-12 17:16:20 Jobu : Csott? classic.
2010-11-12 17:16:20 Bacardi : Oc can go first. Bod will go after.
2010-11-12 17:16:21 Zorg : ....
2010-11-12 17:16:22 Zorg : FINE
2010-11-12 17:16:23 Toyic : I dunno. Silence me please.
2010-11-12 17:16:24 Zorg : Be quiet
2010-11-12 17:16:29 Scott : Put your 4 sided coin away :P
2010-11-12 17:16:33 Zorg : If you're not in OC, no talking until after they're done.
2010-11-12 17:16:33 KevinMp : fail xD
2010-11-12 17:16:36 Zorg : OC can go first.
2010-11-12 17:16:37 Altiar : actualy outcats are first
2010-11-12 17:16:39 bcfcespley : lol
2010-11-12 17:16:42 Pie : Don't you have a moderate room button?
2010-11-12 17:16:49 Jobu : Altiar XD
2010-11-12 17:16:51 Zorg : If your text isn't green I don't want to hear from you.
2010-11-12 17:17:03 jonkers : but :(
2010-11-12 17:17:04 Food : I'll go first on behalf of OC.
2010-11-12 17:17:21 Zorg : I will not warn you again, speaker status will be removed from those who cannot follow simple instructions.
2010-11-12 17:17:30 Zorg : OC are free to go
2010-11-12 17:18:00 Zorg : Speak out of turn again jonkers and you will be removed from chat for the night.
2010-11-12 17:18:19 Food : First up is more wasteland maps, members have asked that we ask for more wasteland maps..the current maps we have were fun the first time around, but things have got stale again.
2010-11-12 17:18:28 Food : Any chance we could get some new maps in rotation?
2010-11-12 17:18:41 Scott : As in replace the current or add more into the mix?
2010-11-12 17:18:54 Risque : Either or
2010-11-12 17:18:58 Zorg : I like having 4 that rotate the same time each year :/
2010-11-12 17:19:05 Risque : And that's the point
2010-11-12 17:19:15 Zorg : They take a lot of work to design and draw...
2010-11-12 17:19:23 Zorg : You're talking weeks of work to make each one.
2010-11-12 17:19:32 Risque : At the very minimum, can the orders be switched up?
2010-11-12 17:19:43 Zorg : what's wrong with the order?
2010-11-12 17:19:45 Food : Replace, we can still have 4..but new ones should be introduced..WL are a big part of this game, so I think we should try and keep things intense in the WL and exciting.,
2010-11-12 17:20:14 Risque : Order = predictable, thus not very exciting. But I agree with Food
2010-11-12 17:20:23 Zorg : I think the new attack system will be a refreshing change anyway
2010-11-12 17:20:32 Zorg : I can look to change / add some more after though I guess.
2010-11-12 17:20:42 Zorg : Just seems like a lot of work for temporary amusement that will soon pass. :/
2010-11-12 17:20:50 Scott : Anything you would like us to add
2010-11-12 17:20:55 Scott : we have a sand/ice etc..
2010-11-12 17:20:56 Risque : Think of it as a challenge
2010-11-12 17:21:04 Zorg : Yeah, like how would you want new maps different to old maps?
2010-11-12 17:21:12 LordofD : It would change things up a bit.
2010-11-12 17:21:13 Scott : Running out of elemets >.<
2010-11-12 17:21:30 Zorg : whatever that can be looked at anyway
2010-11-12 17:21:32 Zorg : Anything else?
2010-11-12 17:21:34 Food : Personally, I don't care much about the elements, just the design and SQ placement.
2010-11-12 17:22:06 Risque : Suppose there was an earthquake in the 2nd month of the map...map changes entirely :X
2010-11-12 17:22:16 Zorg : Ok fine, anything else?
2010-11-12 17:22:21 Food : Buildable Sq's, objective locations etc.
2010-11-12 17:22:21 Zorg : We can't spend forever discussing each suggestion.
2010-11-12 17:22:30 Food : Risque, your up!
2010-11-12 17:22:37 Zorg : I said fine, I'll look in to it in the future.
2010-11-12 17:22:46 Zorg : It's not something I can do right now.
2010-11-12 17:22:48 Risque : When will the spectral items be taken out of play?
2010-11-12 17:22:59 Zorg : Can be taken out of play whenever gangs want.
2010-11-12 17:23:09 Zorg : It's a giant switch I can turn on or off lol
2010-11-12 17:23:09 LordofD : What about a space like map?
2010-11-12 17:23:17 Scott : *waits for the spam of NOW*
2010-11-12 17:23:20 Zorg : LordofD....
2010-11-12 17:23:23 Zorg : We changed topics
2010-11-12 17:23:25 Zorg : Try to keep up
2010-11-12 17:23:32 LordofD : sorry, i lagged
2010-11-12 17:23:32 JayDerZ : next topic?
2010-11-12 17:23:37 Zorg : Yeah all gangs can have their say
2010-11-12 17:23:37 Risque : Not yet
2010-11-12 17:23:41 JayDerZ : alright
2010-11-12 17:23:41 Zorg : Anyone want to keep spectral items for longer?
2010-11-12 17:23:44 Zorg : Or turn them off now?
2010-11-12 17:23:48 Food : I'm sure the majority of OC would like to see them go, I personally would.
2010-11-12 17:23:50 Risque : I'd like them off now
2010-11-12 17:23:51 Tibos : can we talk?
2010-11-12 17:23:53 Ross : longer, all people a final chance at the banners
2010-11-12 17:23:54 Zorg : Yes
2010-11-12 17:23:56 Bacardi : Remove them!!!!!
2010-11-12 17:23:57 Altiar : turn them off
2010-11-12 17:23:59 Ross : allow*
2010-11-12 17:24:00 Tibos : remove now :)
2010-11-12 17:24:01 kukker : keep them up!!
2010-11-12 17:24:03 JayDerZ : I think they should be taken off
2010-11-12 17:24:04 Jobu : remove them.
2010-11-12 17:24:09 jonkers : DF have no problem with them being removed.
2010-11-12 17:24:14 Ross : you should at least have them 1 more weekend
2010-11-12 17:24:20 anonymous1 : if they go now, are they going to become obtainable permanent?
2010-11-12 17:24:20 Ross : and give people a shot at any banners they need...
2010-11-12 17:24:23 Scott : Would you like them turned on as a holiday event. E.g over xmas etc... ? or do you want them gone fully :/?
2010-11-12 17:24:27 Bacardi : Ross they've been up enough already.
2010-11-12 17:24:45 Food : That sounds good scott, gives people a chance to get banners still. :yes:
2010-11-12 17:24:48 Jobu : if they dont have the banners by now, they dont want that
2010-11-12 17:24:50 Zorg : Ok seems everyone wants them off.
2010-11-12 17:25:00 Bacardi : Jobu ;)
2010-11-12 17:25:00 Pie : Wouldn't it be fun to see them come up randomly? so not every weekend, but every few weekends? xD
2010-11-12 17:25:06 Jobu : :O
2010-11-12 17:25:06 Scott : Agree/disagree with holiday? :P
2010-11-12 17:25:06 kukker : i want them but can'tcuz not avatar
2010-11-12 17:25:12 Ross : holiday works
2010-11-12 17:25:13 Tibos : agree with Holiday :D
2010-11-12 17:25:16 Jobu : kukker: you lose
2010-11-12 17:25:16 jonkers : Agree
2010-11-12 17:25:17 Risque : Holiday's ok :)
2010-11-12 17:25:17 Food : Agree with holiday / random.
2010-11-12 17:25:19 Altiar : holiday works
2010-11-12 17:25:19 kukker : disagree
2010-11-12 17:25:20 JayDerZ : agree
2010-11-12 17:25:20 Zorg : 17:25 System: (Staff) Zorg prepared update #151
2010-11-12 17:25:21 Bacardi : Pie no. And holiday sounds good.
2010-11-12 17:25:22 Scott : That okwith you Zorg?
2010-11-12 17:25:25 Zorg : Spectral items are being switched off right now.
2010-11-12 17:25:37 Food : Zorg. :D
2010-11-12 17:25:40 Zorg : Yeah could be a special holiday event thing
2010-11-12 17:25:41 Risque : Yay Zorg ^.^
2010-11-12 17:25:45 Bacardi : Yay! :D
2010-11-12 17:25:48 JoeBloggs : :D
2010-11-12 17:25:49 kukker : nnoooo!!!!!
2010-11-12 17:25:51 Risque : Christmas is coming :O
2010-11-12 17:25:57 JayDerZ : Thank you :P
2010-11-12 17:26:01 Scott : And you guys said Legcon was useless :P
2010-11-12 17:26:03 Zorg : why do you disagree kukker? o.O
2010-11-12 17:26:07 Risque : Make the spectrals red for Christmas!
2010-11-12 17:26:07 Scott : that wouldve taken 2 weeks in a forum :/
2010-11-12 17:26:11 Verractu : cause he wants banners
2010-11-12 17:26:12 Jobu : because kukker isnt an av
2010-11-12 17:26:14 Food : Just you're useless Scott. *kidding*
2010-11-12 17:26:15 kukker : because i want all poeple top be able to abotain banners..
2010-11-12 17:26:16 Bacardi : A suggestion came up if Spectrals be one weekend a month or once a map?
2010-11-12 17:26:19 Zorg : Ah ok, well whatever.
2010-11-12 17:26:24 Ross : lmso
2010-11-12 17:26:24 Pie : Scott, stop complaining.
2010-11-12 17:26:27 jonkers : Verractu your not allowed to talk.
2010-11-12 17:26:27 Scott : XD
2010-11-12 17:26:28 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 17:26:29 kukker : and like me im not av and not able to kil poeple with them
2010-11-12 17:26:29 Zorg : They can come back from holidays, can we just have quiet again for OC to finish please? :)
2010-11-12 17:26:42 Zorg : *for
2010-11-12 17:26:43 Food : LordofD your up dude.
2010-11-12 17:26:45 Zorg : Anything else OC?
2010-11-12 17:26:49 Risque : Yes, there's more
2010-11-12 17:27:00 Zorg : Make it quick :P
2010-11-12 17:27:18 Scott : Has he died on his keyboard?
2010-11-12 17:27:24 Zorg : OC need to learn to type faster...
2010-11-12 17:27:25 Risque : He's typing
2010-11-12 17:27:33 LordofD : Alright, What if we have new gang weapons for each gang? Maybe some that use focus power?
2010-11-12 17:27:52 Zorg : I really don't have time for suggestions of new and complicated ideas. :/
2010-11-12 17:28:03 Scott : LOD add to suggestions forum
2010-11-12 17:28:08 Zorg : I'm looking for changes to current systems, changes that require complex planning like that would be best posted in the suggestions forum.
2010-11-12 17:28:21 Scott : Myself and Gsustav will look at a later date :P
2010-11-12 17:28:21 Zorg : What if we had pets? with lasers? like bears with lasers?
2010-11-12 17:28:27 Zorg : I don't have time for that kind of stuff :/
2010-11-12 17:28:48 LordofD : alright then, but would you consider it for a later time to debate on it?
2010-11-12 17:28:49 Zorg : Broad open suggestions for huge ideas with no thought put in to what, how, why, etc
2010-11-12 17:29:03 Scott : We have elders for a reason :P
2010-11-12 17:29:12 Zorg : All suggestions are considered, I read the suggestions forum. I just have to prioritize my work.
2010-11-12 17:29:21 Zorg : This isn't blizzard HQ, we don't have a million developers here. :(
2010-11-12 17:29:30 LordofD : true
2010-11-12 17:29:32 Nitrous : Make special NPC's disappear and have new special NPC's appear every once in a while.
2010-11-12 17:29:39 Scott : ...
2010-11-12 17:29:40 Food : Moving on? It's Jay's turn
2010-11-12 17:29:41 Scott : Nitrous gtfo
2010-11-12 17:29:53 JayDerZ : Can new weapons for various levels be introduced, with multiple weapons for a level (maybe not every level but milestone levels..20,30, etc)?
2010-11-12 17:29:58 maceybhoy : We're getting pets!?!?
2010-11-12 17:29:58 Zorg : seriously enough with the random suggestions like that, we do have a suggestions forum.
2010-11-12 17:30:19 Zorg : We plan to add new items with the removal of the level cap anyway.
2010-11-12 17:30:20 Scott : ok
2010-11-12 17:30:25 Scott : Any suggestions that are new
2010-11-12 17:30:28 Scott : suggestions forum
2010-11-12 17:30:30 Zorg : As for current items, they still need some balancing / adjusting. That will be done at the same time.
2010-11-12 17:30:35 Scott : me and Zorg will read later this week
2010-11-12 17:30:54 Zorg : I don't mind discussing DtD suggestions, or stuff that has been ignored or forgotten.
2010-11-12 17:31:05 Zorg : Is that all from OC?
2010-11-12 17:31:12 Risque : We have a bit more, but not much
2010-11-12 17:31:19 Scott : go for it :P
2010-11-12 17:31:32 Food : I have one more question, what's going to happen with the level cap? Has there been a decision made about this yet or waiting for other projects to be completed before having a go at this one?
2010-11-12 17:32:01 Zorg : The level cap isn't being removed until after the fight system is done... and bcfc and myself have a lot of work to do with items
2010-11-12 17:32:26 Scott : bcfc is slacking again? :P
2010-11-12 17:32:33 Zorg : But it's going to be increasingly harder to level past 80 with each passing level, purely vanity stuff like clothing as rewards
2010-11-12 17:33:01 Zorg : So it's up to you guys how far past 80 you want to go, it will get to the point where leveling from 1 level to the next takes a huge amount of time though.
2010-11-12 17:33:01 Food : I welcome the challenge, I believe that's all from OC..thanks!
2010-11-12 17:33:16 Scott : No problem
2010-11-12 17:33:18 Zorg : So there will be no hard cap, there may be a sanity cap though. :D
2010-11-12 17:33:28 Risque : No, Food!
2010-11-12 17:33:30 Zorg : So who is next in this pre-defined order I had no say in Scott? :/
2010-11-12 17:33:47 Scott : Oh now you can pull out your 3 sided coin and have a blast :P
2010-11-12 17:33:56 Zorg : Ok then BoD it is
2010-11-12 17:34:02 Zorg : Because everyone knows yellow comes after green.
2010-11-12 17:34:07 Bacardi : :o
2010-11-12 17:34:12 KevinMp : that makes sense :) xD
2010-11-12 17:34:13 Scott : What happens if youre colour blind?
2010-11-12 17:34:16 anonymous1 : first topic was the possiblity of subscription banners
2010-11-12 17:34:23 kickbutt : ..
2010-11-12 17:34:25 Zorg : subscription banners? :/
2010-11-12 17:34:25 Pie : doesn't change the fact, scott.
2010-11-12 17:34:37 Scott : I'm guessing
2010-11-12 17:34:43 Scott : subscribed for over 100 days etc.. ?
2010-11-12 17:34:45 Zorg : did kickbutt just rage quit the LegCon?
2010-11-12 17:34:56 anonymous1 : yeah stuff like that. similar to voting banners
2010-11-12 17:35:02 Zorg : Sadly we don't record how long you have been a subscriber for to award banners for it :/
2010-11-12 17:35:03 Scott : he's prob got to be tucked in bed or something :P
2010-11-12 17:35:25 HappyDays : how about banners for amount of sub bought
2010-11-12 17:35:29 KevinMp : I've purchased many weeks since i've played. Any chance we would get a "Bought 100 days worth" or something like that
2010-11-12 17:35:34 Zorg : again... not recorded
2010-11-12 17:35:38 KevinMp : Ahh ok
2010-11-12 17:35:45 Zorg : So even if they were to be added
2010-11-12 17:35:51 Zorg : They would only apply to the future.
2010-11-12 17:35:51 HappyDays : how about starting from now onwards
2010-11-12 17:36:00 Scott : I dont want to be knee deepin sub logs counting and adding =|
2010-11-12 17:36:02 kickbutt : Nov 12 10:34 PM [Zorg] did kickbutt just rage quit the LegCon?
2010-11-12 17:36:10 Zorg : Well I plan on some changes to subscriptions anyway, which will be discussed later.
2010-11-12 17:36:11 Bacardi : Will there be an addition of 1 - 2 new abilities since I know a few are getting close to maxing everything out?
2010-11-12 17:36:13 Scott : BoD are talking, hush
2010-11-12 17:36:16 Zorg : Such things could be incorporated
2010-11-12 17:36:19 Bacardi : I know abilities are getting scrapped.
2010-11-12 17:36:21 HappyDays : cool cool
2010-11-12 17:36:31 Zorg : No they aren't...
2010-11-12 17:36:50 Zorg : But yes, there should be some new ones added before faelust maxes hers out -_-
2010-11-12 17:36:57 KevinMp : damn you fae xD
2010-11-12 17:36:58 Scott : ooo
2010-11-12 17:37:03 Scott : Sounds like a job for me :P
2010-11-12 17:37:04 Zorg : She is at 97% trained, 100% in 38 days minimum.
2010-11-12 17:37:05 Zorg : -_-
2010-11-12 17:37:16 Bacardi : Yeah that's what I was wondering.
2010-11-12 17:37:18 Scott : i have nothing to do till xmas :(
2010-11-12 17:37:26 Zorg : As far as I know she is the furthest through them all.
2010-11-12 17:37:36 Pascal : yup.
2010-11-12 17:37:43 maceybhoy : Shrub her
2010-11-12 17:37:46 Bacardi : She's the highest then yehrite69 comes up next? I know Dball13 is up there as well.
2010-11-12 17:37:52 maceybhoy : Gives you plenty of time.
2010-11-12 17:38:08 Scott : ok, next point from BoD
2010-11-12 17:38:09 Zorg : Anything else BoD?
2010-11-12 17:38:20 anonymous1 : removing item use confirmation
2010-11-12 17:38:25 Scott : Already done
2010-11-12 17:38:25 Bacardi : That was done.
2010-11-12 17:38:26 Zorg : Already done.
2010-11-12 17:38:27 Scott : Next.
2010-11-12 17:38:34 KevinMp : Well then.. xD
2010-11-12 17:38:41 Zorg : Glad you're up on current events, lol
2010-11-12 17:38:51 KevinMp : someone is typing to meee :O
2010-11-12 17:38:54 Bacardi : I think we're good, the main one was Spectral but we got that covered with Oc.
2010-11-12 17:39:10 Bacardi : HappyDays anything?
2010-11-12 17:39:27 Zorg : He disconnected as you said that, lol
2010-11-12 17:39:32 Bacardi : lol
2010-11-12 17:39:38 Scott : :o
2010-11-12 17:39:42 Zorg : BoD are winning the fast typing contest so far anyway.
2010-11-12 17:39:43 HappyDays : happydays has been logged off for the past few minutes
2010-11-12 17:39:59 HappyDays : so don't know what was talked about so shall not slow things down
2010-11-12 17:40:00 anonymous1 : i think most of our other ideas would be better for the suggestions forum
2010-11-12 17:40:02 HappyDays : just go on
2010-11-12 17:40:08 Zorg : WeOk then.
2010-11-12 17:40:11 Bacardi : We're good Zorg.
2010-11-12 17:40:11 Scott : alrght :P
2010-11-12 17:40:17 KevinMp : yes. we're all set
2010-11-12 17:40:17 Zorg : Next is DF then
2010-11-12 17:40:23 Zorg : Because red comes after yellow... if you go via orange
2010-11-12 17:40:30 Scott : yeah yeah
2010-11-12 17:40:31 KevinMp : durr xD
2010-11-12 17:40:32 Scott : XD
2010-11-12 17:40:34 Pascal : lol
2010-11-12 17:40:47 Tibos : reiteration:
2010-11-12 17:40:48 Tibos : WL Maps: Create 4 new WL Maps and rotate pseudo randomly between the 8 (ensuring the same map won't be played more than 3 rotations apart).
2010-11-12 17:40:59 Scott : Alreayd discussed
2010-11-12 17:41:06 Tibos : i know, DF fully support this
2010-11-12 17:41:07 Zorg : So OC want some new maps, you guys want 4. >.<
2010-11-12 17:41:10 Zorg : TC will want 8
2010-11-12 17:41:11 Scott : we will look at, at a later date :P
2010-11-12 17:41:17 Scott : actually
2010-11-12 17:41:27 Zorg : Yup, warfare will be getting more interesting soon anyway.
2010-11-12 17:41:28 Scott : Any specifications from DF
2010-11-12 17:41:29 Zorg : New maps or not.
2010-11-12 17:41:30 Tibos : ok, next point?
2010-11-12 17:41:42 Zorg : Anything you want to see in said new maps?
2010-11-12 17:41:51 Tibos : nothing specific
2010-11-12 17:41:54 Scott : Any new elements? :P
2010-11-12 17:41:56 Jobu : More to do would be nice.
2010-11-12 17:42:01 zerocomman : what is your obsession with elements?
2010-11-12 17:42:08 zerocomman : just different designs and square combinations
2010-11-12 17:42:10 Zorg : Can I take the current maps and mirror them? :D
2010-11-12 17:42:11 Jobu : perhaps have square locations be effected by elements, etc.
2010-11-12 17:42:19 Jobu : so same strategies can't be used all the time
2010-11-12 17:42:20 Scott : Because if you havnt noticed each map has an element
2010-11-12 17:42:26 Scott : suprising we thought of that eh?
2010-11-12 17:42:28 Tibos : make a competition for map design
2010-11-12 17:42:32 Tibos : choose the best ones ;)
2010-11-12 17:42:36 Zorg : I'm pretty sure green toxic crap isn't an element Scott
2010-11-12 17:42:43 zerocomman : well if you haven't noticed, clearly we dont' care so much about the elements XD
2010-11-12 17:42:44 DMaster : lol
2010-11-12 17:42:45 Scott : shh
2010-11-12 17:43:00 Zorg : when the time comes I'll get players to help design stuff then
2010-11-12 17:43:06 Tibos : Quick Inventory: Have the first row or first column (subscriber advantage) of inventory available for use in WL
2010-11-12 17:43:11 Risque : Can I post something from Bcfc?
2010-11-12 17:43:13 maceybhoy : Sinking sand? xD
2010-11-12 17:43:17 Zorg : Already planned for the new combat / warfare system.
2010-11-12 17:43:28 Pascal : little panda's walking around?
2010-11-12 17:43:35 Tibos : Redesign Phase Shadowing: Keep the Shadowed person in place for 10 seconds (to make it less useless)
2010-11-12 17:43:37 Zorg : Using items will not require you to navigate away from warfare at all.
2010-11-12 17:43:44 Pascal : but they are ninja panda's so watch out
2010-11-12 17:43:50 Zorg : That sounds a bit over-powered :/
2010-11-12 17:44:02 Tibos : Shadowing is entirely useless now though ....
2010-11-12 17:44:07 Zorg : why?
2010-11-12 17:44:11 Pie : should like stun them for 3 seconds or something
2010-11-12 17:44:19 Pie : 10 seconds is way too long xD
2010-11-12 17:44:21 Tibos : by the time you get to the other person he can just go away
2010-11-12 17:44:37 Zorg : Post it in the suggestions forum, if it gets a lot of positive feedback I'll add it.
2010-11-12 17:44:46 Tibos : 2 seconds to stop attacking him, 2 seconds to type /shadow 1 sec to load page = 5 sec restriction
2010-11-12 17:45:01 Tibos : it was posted as soon as the Shadowing was made :P
2010-11-12 17:45:04 Tibos : but i will do it again
2010-11-12 17:45:14 Zorg : well if it takes you 5 seconds to get to them anyway
2010-11-12 17:45:18 Zorg : You may be too late to stun them
2010-11-12 17:45:28 Zorg : If they're literally not there when you arrive...
2010-11-12 17:45:37 Tibos : then nothing happens ;)
2010-11-12 17:45:43 Tibos : ok, i'm done i think
2010-11-12 17:45:48 jonkers : Zero ?
2010-11-12 17:45:48 zerocomman : ok. i'll pick up then
2010-11-12 17:45:52 Bacardi : Bod agree with the suggestion of "stunning" the person who gets shadowed.
2010-11-12 17:45:53 Zorg : mmm k but shadowing will be a lot faster in the new system anyway
2010-11-12 17:46:03 zerocomman : first off, we'd like to increase the character limit in posting
2010-11-12 17:46:09 zerocomman : to say 2000 or even 3000
2010-11-12 17:46:10 Zorg : because combat will take place in the warfare page... and shadow will be a button not a command
2010-11-12 17:46:16 zerocomman : also for messages
2010-11-12 17:46:20 Scott : is this from nemesis lol?
2010-11-12 17:46:22 Zorg : posting in forums?
2010-11-12 17:46:22 zerocomman : yea
2010-11-12 17:46:26 zerocomman : yes
2010-11-12 17:46:33 Jobu : <3 buttons instead of drop down.
2010-11-12 17:46:33 bcfcespley : this
2010-11-12 17:46:34 bcfcespley : is
2010-11-12 17:46:35 jonkers : Also thread title length
2010-11-12 17:46:35 Scott : could be a sub feature
2010-11-12 17:46:36 bcfcespley : boring
2010-11-12 17:46:41 KevinMp : i can agree with that. oftentimes i have to double post to get a point across
2010-11-12 17:46:45 zerocomman : quiet kevin
2010-11-12 17:46:55 zerocomman : okay that's one
2010-11-12 17:46:58 KevinMp : -_-
2010-11-12 17:47:14 zerocomman : the 2nd was we'd like to revisit restricting gang hopping in the middle of map cycles
2010-11-12 17:47:36 Zorg : All gangs happy with a 3000 character limit
2010-11-12 17:47:37 Zorg : in forums?
2010-11-12 17:47:39 Scott : Didn't we say that's unfair last time O_o
2010-11-12 17:47:43 Tibos : yes
2010-11-12 17:47:45 Altiar : yes
2010-11-12 17:47:49 Ross : yes
2010-11-12 17:47:49 kukker : Tc is saying :yes:
2010-11-12 17:47:58 Zorg : Thread titles will need to be reviewed
2010-11-12 17:48:02 Risque : Yes, as well as in messages, if possibles
2010-11-12 17:48:03 Food : Yes, increase the gang news limit slighty too please.
2010-11-12 17:48:06 Zorg : As I don't know the maximum length the templates can support
2010-11-12 17:48:20 Scott : Sounds like some dev testing to break things :D
2010-11-12 17:48:22 Tibos : about double than the current one i think :P
2010-11-12 17:48:47 Zorg : 17:48 System: (Staff) Zorg prepared update #152
2010-11-12 17:48:57 KevinMp : dun dun duuunnn xd
2010-11-12 17:48:57 Zorg : Character count updated to 3000.
2010-11-12 17:48:59 Food : 18:48:20 [bcfcespley] 3000 post character for sub people, plus titles should be editable.
2010-11-12 17:49:00 KevinMp : ty :D
2010-11-12 17:49:08 Risque : Yay!
2010-11-12 17:49:15 Zorg : I'll test forum title lengths later and review that
2010-11-12 17:49:22 Zorg : Message length is currently as high as it can be. :/
2010-11-12 17:49:34 Ross : its not a must have
2010-11-12 17:49:34 Zorg : I think.... increasing message length further would require us to decrease mailbox size.
2010-11-12 17:49:36 Risque : Oh well. Worth a shot :/
2010-11-12 17:49:37 Ross : people can alwasy double post....
2010-11-12 17:49:46 Ross : or triple post etc
2010-11-12 17:49:48 Scott : I struggle with 50 as it is :(
2010-11-12 17:49:56 Bacardi : Same with me Scott.
2010-11-12 17:49:57 Zorg : Anyway back to DF
2010-11-12 17:50:00 Pie : Can staff get unlimited inbox space? xD
2010-11-12 17:50:04 KevinMp : then i say forget it :X
2010-11-12 17:50:05 zerocomman : ok. as i was trying to say
2010-11-12 17:50:07 Scott : No Pie
2010-11-12 17:50:12 Bacardi : Pie you'd get spammed.
2010-11-12 17:50:16 Scott : your fan mail is too much for our servers
2010-11-12 17:50:20 Zorg : Enough from the other gangs now please.
2010-11-12 17:50:20 zerocomman : we'd like to revisit putting restrictions on gang hopping in the middle of map cycles
2010-11-12 17:50:25 Zorg : People did not interupt your turns.
2010-11-12 17:50:33 Scott : By restrictions
2010-11-12 17:50:37 Scott : do you mean a few days block
2010-11-12 17:50:43 Scott : or from joining certain gangs ?
2010-11-12 17:50:47 zerocomman : allow switching for the first one or two weeks after reset, but after that, you may not participate in wl for gangs other than your original gang
2010-11-12 17:50:48 Zorg : Define restrictions...
2010-11-12 17:51:03 jonkers : We are flexible with restrictions
2010-11-12 17:51:04 Zorg : why?
2010-11-12 17:51:05 zerocomman : so you could switch gangs, but wouldn't be able to play in wl unless you return to your original gang
2010-11-12 17:51:21 zerocomman : because too many people hop to the gangs that are doing well
2010-11-12 17:51:26 Scott : Our issue (i think Zorg included) is that it's highly unfair if you're in a gang you dont like
2010-11-12 17:51:34 zerocomman : well you can switch gangs
2010-11-12 17:51:37 Ross : and? thats the choice the player makes
2010-11-12 17:51:38 Scott : and your most likly to quit for a week than play
2010-11-12 17:51:43 jonkers : Think before you leave?
2010-11-12 17:51:46 DMaster : I think they're suggesting you just can't go in the WL Scott
2010-11-12 17:51:46 zerocomman : you just can't be in the wasteland until the next reset
2010-11-12 17:51:54 Zorg : hmm
2010-11-12 17:52:05 zerocomman : like i said, we'd want a few week grace period to allow switching after resets
2010-11-12 17:52:12 zerocomman : so it's not like you're stuck immediately after the reset
2010-11-12 17:52:19 Scott : hmm
2010-11-12 17:52:28 Zorg : That still strikes me as a very controversial solution.
2010-11-12 17:52:29 Ross : game vote?
2010-11-12 17:52:30 Scott : Random idea, increase join price to the winning gang
2010-11-12 17:52:36 Scott : make it a bit more exclusive
2010-11-12 17:52:41 jonkers : Agreed with ross
2010-11-12 17:52:45 Jobu : there should still be some sort of short period to prevent people from ho[pping to multiple gangs for sport or to post on their forums, etc
2010-11-12 17:52:54 Zorg : that is what gang rep is supposed to stop...
2010-11-12 17:52:57 Zorg : regular gang switching
2010-11-12 17:53:01 Scott : Is it a huge issue with you guys :/?
2010-11-12 17:53:07 Tibos : increase join price as time goes by, reset at the start of the WL Round?
2010-11-12 17:53:10 zerocomman : it's not hard to keep at least 3 gangs neutral though
2010-11-12 17:53:30 Zorg : I don't think price would stop people, unless it was very excessive...
2010-11-12 17:53:34 Zorg : and then it's not really fair on new players
2010-11-12 17:53:37 KevinMp : Maybe change the join prices based upon how the gang is doing? :O
2010-11-12 17:53:42 zerocomman : quiet kevin
2010-11-12 17:53:44 Jobu : no
2010-11-12 17:53:46 jonkers : no
2010-11-12 17:53:47 Tibos : fair enough, i didn't think that through :(
2010-11-12 17:53:54 Scott : See if we block access
2010-11-12 17:53:57 Neltharion : Why not something like the cost increases if you hop gangs a lot, but resets if you dont change gang for a period of time?
2010-11-12 17:54:00 Scott : what happens if you guys have a walkout
2010-11-12 17:54:08 Scott : We've seen it in 3 gangs so far
2010-11-12 17:54:14 Jobu : Neltharion: that is sensible
2010-11-12 17:54:16 zerocomman : what nelth said seems reasonable
2010-11-12 17:54:26 jonkers : Agreed
2010-11-12 17:54:30 Zorg : But if they only change gangs once every 3 months...
2010-11-12 17:54:34 Zorg : that cost is not going to increase...
2010-11-12 17:54:38 Jobu : right
2010-11-12 17:54:44 Scott : Cooldown period?
2010-11-12 17:55:08 Zorg : I agree it is a problem, I don't like the proposed solution at present.
2010-11-12 17:55:12 Jobu : I still believe there should be a period of time in between rejoining a new gang. even if it's 24 hours to prevent spam and bs.
2010-11-12 17:55:16 Scott : Unless we can add some more things that effect rep
2010-11-12 17:55:29 zerocomman : well so long as it's something that you are willing to think about, that's why we brought it up
2010-11-12 17:55:31 jonkers : leaving a gang drops rep?
2010-11-12 17:55:33 Bacardi : Price to join depends on level and how many times you keep leaving and joining as well as your gang rep?
2010-11-12 17:55:37 Scott : yeah it does that
2010-11-12 17:55:39 Jobu : jonkers: good idea
2010-11-12 17:55:44 HappyDays : when you swithc gangs you should not be aboe to use that gangs gang weap
2010-11-12 17:55:46 Scott : pretty much anything you do at the moment in a gang edits rep
2010-11-12 17:55:56 Jobu : if you leave a gang, surely your rep with them would change.
2010-11-12 17:55:58 jonkers : apart from leaving ?
2010-11-12 17:56:09 Zorg : That's fine but how does that solve the problem?
2010-11-12 17:56:22 Scott : The only solution i see to it right now
2010-11-12 17:56:22 jonkers : stops you going straight back
2010-11-12 17:56:25 Zorg : All dropping DF rep when someone leaves would do is prevent them coming back for... however long it takes to get it back to neutral?
2010-11-12 17:56:27 Scott : is making it an elder issue
2010-11-12 17:56:31 Jobu : it doesn't solve, just prevent mass rejoins and changes
2010-11-12 17:56:42 Scott : If that ok with DF ?
2010-11-12 17:56:51 zerocomman : yes. let's make it an elder issue so that 75% of the game can't discuss it
2010-11-12 17:56:54 Jobu : it's something
2010-11-12 17:57:05 Scott : yeah
2010-11-12 17:57:06 jonkers : I would say more then 75% zero
2010-11-12 17:57:06 zerocomman : but as long as it gets some consideration :p
2010-11-12 17:57:09 Scott : elders add game voice
2010-11-12 17:57:11 Scott : not just theirs -_-
2010-11-12 17:57:12 Pie : 25% of the game seex the Elder forum?
2010-11-12 17:57:13 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 17:57:18 Ross : lmao
2010-11-12 17:57:18 Pie : sees*
2010-11-12 17:57:19 Jobu : o.O
2010-11-12 17:57:22 zerocomman : i just picked a random number pie
2010-11-12 17:57:28 Scott : Well get your figures right
2010-11-12 17:57:30 zerocomman : okay. that's it for me i think. jonkers is up
2010-11-12 17:57:36 Jobu : then it's randomly humorous
2010-11-12 17:57:48 Zorg : For the record, zerocomman with his bitchy sarcasm does not help you get your points across DF.
2010-11-12 17:57:52 jonkers : Df would like to back the WL pets with lasers idea
2010-11-12 17:57:59 Zorg : You may wish to consider a different rep next time.
2010-11-12 17:58:04 zerocomman : HER bitchy sarcasm
2010-11-12 17:58:06 KevinMp : lmao
2010-11-12 17:58:09 Scott : Can we just recap
2010-11-12 17:58:13 HappyDays : nice zorg
2010-11-12 17:58:14 Scott : is DF ok with em posting it to elders ?
2010-11-12 17:58:17 Scott : me*
2010-11-12 17:58:23 jonkers : I have been given some good idea's which I can happily PM you.
2010-11-12 17:58:31 jonkers : on WL pets
2010-11-12 17:58:38 Scott : That was a joke jonkers =|
2010-11-12 17:58:48 Zorg : I'm totally open to discussing solutions to the problem, but until I see a solution that doesn't negatively impact on players not gang hopping I'm not going to implement it.
2010-11-12 17:58:57 zerocomman : that's fair enough
2010-11-12 17:59:07 Tibos : sharks with lazors
2010-11-12 17:59:09 jonkers : In that Case DF would like to suggest the implementation of WL pets with lasers
2010-11-12 17:59:10 zerocomman : we just wanted to resubmit it as an issue we felt worth thinking about
2010-11-12 17:59:11 KevinMp : -_-
2010-11-12 17:59:14 Jobu : lazers, not lazors
2010-11-12 17:59:20 Scott : Right Elder issue it is :p
2010-11-12 17:59:26 Zorg : ....
2010-11-12 17:59:30 Zorg : Ok lol
2010-11-12 17:59:31 Jobu : :X
2010-11-12 17:59:36 HappyDays : walking dead just finished
2010-11-12 17:59:43 jonkers : Next point?
2010-11-12 17:59:50 Scott : Anything else from DF ?
2010-11-12 17:59:51 Zorg : Yes, please lol
2010-11-12 17:59:55 zerocomman : jobu did you have anything?
2010-11-12 18:00:04 Jobu : Not really, since it was the level cap
2010-11-12 18:00:10 jonkers : We would like you to recall the idea about moving NPC's in WL.
2010-11-12 18:00:13 Jobu : i presume Zorg has more to say on it
2010-11-12 18:00:19 Jobu : NPCs in the WL, yes
2010-11-12 18:00:25 kickbutt : that was my idea!
2010-11-12 18:00:29 Scott : You dont agee to that?
2010-11-12 18:00:30 Jobu : anything to make the WL more interesting
2010-11-12 18:00:30 Pascal : I read the logs tomorrow, goodnight :)
2010-11-12 18:00:43 Zorg : It requires a lot of planning but it is planned for the new combat system.
2010-11-12 18:00:49 Jobu : planned as in
2010-11-12 18:00:50 Tibos : 00:34:51 [Risque] There was past comments about guards acting like NPCs. Can guards have drops? For example, wl-usable items, booby traps or something like that
2010-11-12 18:00:59 Jobu : seriously, or 3 years from now we will discuss it again
2010-11-12 18:01:04 Zorg : It depends if we can make guards mobile / responsive and still have them defend territory in a way that doesn't frustrate players.
2010-11-12 18:01:18 jonkers : It doest need to be guards
2010-11-12 18:01:22 Jobu : right
2010-11-12 18:01:30 Zorg : The general idea is that guards would patrol... and attack any enemies they found in gang territory
2010-11-12 18:01:46 Zorg : As appose to sitting and waiting on borders.
2010-11-12 18:01:47 Jobu : right, that was mentioned before and is a sound logical idea.
2010-11-12 18:01:48 jonkers : With stronger NPC's the closer you got?
2010-11-12 18:02:00 Zorg : With stronger NPCs patrolling in deeper territory
2010-11-12 18:02:01 jonkers : not just on the boundreys
2010-11-12 18:02:05 Zorg : And stealth NPCs patrolling outside it
2010-11-12 18:02:13 Nitrous : so they would automatically attack you if they catch you on their gangs square?
2010-11-12 18:02:18 Zorg : The HQ would have the equivelent of an NPC boss defending it
2010-11-12 18:02:21 Zorg : correct
2010-11-12 18:02:23 KevinMp : but then the wl couldnt offer points for afk :O
2010-11-12 18:02:27 Nitrous : I like it!
2010-11-12 18:02:30 jonkers : What sort of level are we talking?
2010-11-12 18:02:38 Scott : Well you arent suppost to afk in the wl :P
2010-11-12 18:02:38 jonkers : For the highest and lowest?
2010-11-12 18:02:40 Zorg : Yes the stealth NPCs that would patrol enemy territory and gank, was to stop AFKing
2010-11-12 18:02:41 Tibos : all the better KevinMP
2010-11-12 18:02:48 KevinMp : i guess so :P
2010-11-12 18:03:01 Jobu : wow, Zorg said gank. Respect.
2010-11-12 18:03:13 Zorg : ...I play more computer games than you do Jobu :P
2010-11-12 18:03:15 Scott : He has his big book of 1337 speak out
2010-11-12 18:03:17 Zorg : noob
2010-11-12 18:03:27 Jobu : I know, just the term in general. XD
2010-11-12 18:03:31 jonkers : Back to my last question?
2010-11-12 18:03:39 Zorg : It's all just ideas in the air right now, no idea what will actually come of it.
2010-11-12 18:03:49 Zorg : But we have a scripting system capable of controlling NPCs in real time.
2010-11-12 18:03:58 Jobu : nice
2010-11-12 18:03:58 Zorg : So some sort of wandering NPCs should be added.
2010-11-12 18:04:06 Scott : What question jonkers
2010-11-12 18:04:12 Zorg : The idea in warfare with the new combat system is automatic counter attacks will be removed.
2010-11-12 18:04:20 jonkers : The strength of the 'guards'
2010-11-12 18:04:28 Zorg : So if an NPC comes in and starts attacking you... you must not be AFK in order to fight back and defeat it.
2010-11-12 18:04:37 Jobu : i see
2010-11-12 18:04:39 Scott : as in the current or the future planned o.o?
2010-11-12 18:04:49 jonkers : The moving ones?
2010-11-12 18:04:52 Zorg : This is all part of the combat system I'm trying to implement.
2010-11-12 18:04:57 Zorg : That is insanely big and complicated. :(
2010-11-12 18:04:57 Scott : oh not decided yet
2010-11-12 18:04:58 Jobu : i guess future, if current isn't able tbe altered
2010-11-12 18:05:06 Scott : as he says its still an "idea" atm
2010-11-12 18:05:11 Scott : nothings been set in stone :P
2010-11-12 18:05:16 Ross : with the greatest respect, we should move onto TC....
2010-11-12 18:05:27 Jobu : we should do no such thing.
2010-11-12 18:05:28 Zorg : Yes that suggestion has gone on a while.
2010-11-12 18:05:37 Zorg : Anymore stuff to discuss DF?
2010-11-12 18:05:43 Jobu : hmm
2010-11-12 18:05:48 Zorg : Not you zero >:(
2010-11-12 18:05:52 Jobu : Anything else?
2010-11-12 18:05:54 zerocomman : oh. well respectfully, scott and pie are douchebag
2010-11-12 18:05:55 Tibos : sharks with lazors
2010-11-12 18:05:57 zerocomman : *s
2010-11-12 18:05:58 zerocomman : XD
2010-11-12 18:06:03 Scott : Yeah
2010-11-12 18:06:03 Zorg : I stand by my earlier comment. -_-
2010-11-12 18:06:04 jonkers : Seconded
2010-11-12 18:06:08 Jobu : NPC animals with lasers
2010-11-12 18:06:10 Scott : those comments really want me to listen to you
2010-11-12 18:06:11 Jobu : not just sharsks
2010-11-12 18:06:13 Pie : 8)
2010-11-12 18:06:13 Jobu : small minded -_-
2010-11-12 18:06:22 Zorg : Ok then, on to TC.
2010-11-12 18:06:37 Jobu : I wpuld bring up Staff's attitudes to players at times, but I feel it will be met with hostility.
2010-11-12 18:06:39 jonkers : We liked the idea of a lagoon with a sea monster (with lasers) in the WL
2010-11-12 18:06:41 Zorg : because blue comes after red? :o
2010-11-12 18:06:50 Pie : blue's at the other end of the spectrum.
2010-11-12 18:06:51 Zorg : That will come up in a bit Jobu
2010-11-12 18:06:51 Jobu : blue :X
2010-11-12 18:06:53 Zorg : TC go!
2010-11-12 18:06:55 kukker : i can't see how blue can come after ered o.O
2010-11-12 18:07:01 kukker : -e
2010-11-12 18:07:05 Zorg : red > purple > blue
2010-11-12 18:07:06 anialator : red - purple - blue
2010-11-12 18:07:08 KevinMp : it does when its the last one left xD
2010-11-12 18:07:11 Altiar : Reduce the cost of changing your stats; 2k is a little to much..it would be alot of exciting if the price was lowered and people would have different stats all the time..I think 500c is a fair price.
2010-11-12 18:07:16 Pie : roygbiv..
2010-11-12 18:07:31 Zorg : Hmm
2010-11-12 18:07:33 Jobu : disagree.
2010-11-12 18:07:35 Scott : 500c is cheap :/
2010-11-12 18:07:37 Ross : agreed
2010-11-12 18:07:39 Zorg : Ok, other gangs can discuss.
2010-11-12 18:07:40 Food : Fully agree
2010-11-12 18:07:42 kukker : now im thinking about price vary with you're level
2010-11-12 18:07:43 jonkers : disafree
2010-11-12 18:07:43 QQz : Price increase per respec?
2010-11-12 18:07:44 Risque : Agree
2010-11-12 18:07:48 Tibos : disagree
2010-11-12 18:07:48 JayDerZ : i agree as well
2010-11-12 18:07:53 KevinMp : sure :) i agree
2010-11-12 18:07:55 Zorg : why do all DF disagree?
2010-11-12 18:08:03 Jobu : 2k is fair
2010-11-12 18:08:03 LordofD : i agree
2010-11-12 18:08:04 kukker : dunno -_-
2010-11-12 18:08:06 Jobu : it's been this forever
2010-11-12 18:08:08 KevinMp : maybe a certain price based on how many stat points you have ;)
2010-11-12 18:08:12 Jobu : it works and people use it
2010-11-12 18:08:13 Tibos : stat changing is serious issue and 2k is not too much
2010-11-12 18:08:20 Food : 2k is way to much, why should chaning stats cost so much?..It's nice to constantly have people change things up, makes it more interesting
2010-11-12 18:08:21 anonymous1 : would help newer players figure out their stats cheaper
2010-11-12 18:08:27 Zorg : I have to side with DF at the moment, with the current economy in the game I don't think removing money sinks is a good idea.
2010-11-12 18:08:27 Tibos : do it right once and it doesn't need changing for a long time
2010-11-12 18:08:27 Ross : wouldnt exactly says its a"serious issue"
2010-11-12 18:08:27 kukker : i still stand by it's more expensive for avatar to change than for lowbies!'
2010-11-12 18:08:39 jonkers : Thank you zorg
2010-11-12 18:08:40 Jobu : in most games you can't even change stats. here you can. it should be treated is vaulable.
2010-11-12 18:08:49 Zorg : I agree discounts could be given to lower levels to ease the learning curve though.
2010-11-12 18:08:56 Scott : I hate the dojo master :P
2010-11-12 18:09:10 Jobu : lower level discounts, acceptable.
2010-11-12 18:09:17 jonkers : Sounds fair but keep the current price for avs?
2010-11-12 18:09:18 Food : How often do people change the stats for 2k? If you change it to 500c I promise you more money will be removed from the game since alot more people will change stats
2010-11-12 18:09:21 Zorg : But yes, for Avatars I think 2000 credits is about right. You guys have tons of money anyway.
2010-11-12 18:09:23 JayDerZ : on that point, as a lower level i have gone against a stat change as the price is too much
2010-11-12 18:09:25 KevinMp : so like... Level 10, 500c. Level 30, 1k. Level 50, 1.5, and 80 is 2k
2010-11-12 18:09:37 Risque : Stupid statement, Zorg :/
2010-11-12 18:09:38 Altiar : i have no money :(
2010-11-12 18:09:46 Bacardi : If you have the ability of Versatility you should be allowed to change those 10 points whenever you wish to free of charge.
2010-11-12 18:09:50 Zorg : Ask FatTony for money, he has lots.
2010-11-12 18:09:54 Scott : xD
2010-11-12 18:09:56 maceybhoy : xD
2010-11-12 18:09:59 KevinMp : Dont make me spam him xD
2010-11-12 18:10:03 Ross : meh, I'd say people would change their stats more at 500c than they would 2k.....you could therefore argue that its probably more a money sink that way
2010-11-12 18:10:08 Scott : Zorg's giv u free c's plox fund
2010-11-12 18:10:19 Food : That's what I am thinking ross!
2010-11-12 18:10:26 Zorg : Ok back to TC anyway, that idea is rejected for now... atleast for avatars.
2010-11-12 18:10:51 Zorg : It may be reviewed again later.
2010-11-12 18:11:07 Zorg : I'll try to remember to implement discounts for lower levels still learning the game though.
2010-11-12 18:11:34 Ross : i'd do it by account age btw, not level
2010-11-12 18:11:38 kukker : okay you got more altiar?
2010-11-12 18:11:40 Ross : you can get avatars inn 40 days now
2010-11-12 18:11:50 Ross : doesnt mean they know the game exactly
2010-11-12 18:11:50 KevinMp : no way xD some have been here 5+ years
2010-11-12 18:11:58 maceybhoy : 1 free for starting?
2010-11-12 18:12:02 Zorg : It will be done based on level.
2010-11-12 18:12:12 Zorg : If they get to 80 in 40 days they're not new to the game.
2010-11-12 18:12:15 KevinMp : yay! my idea ftw! xD
2010-11-12 18:12:25 Zorg : TC are talking now
2010-11-12 18:12:28 Zorg : or supposed to be anyway...
2010-11-12 18:12:40 kukker : i'm still here waiting for altiar to finish
2010-11-12 18:12:52 Altiar : the rank 10/18 clothing when can they come out?
2010-11-12 18:13:08 Zorg : Ask bcfcespley
2010-11-12 18:13:15 Scott : yeah
2010-11-12 18:13:24 Scott : you have my permission to abuse that sector of the dev team
2010-11-12 18:13:29 Zorg : I dunno if what I just clicked lets him speak or not >.<
2010-11-12 18:13:33 Scott : DMaster, bcfcespley etc...
2010-11-12 18:13:39 maceybhoy : xD
2010-11-12 18:13:43 kukker : okay that was altiar i guess..
2010-11-12 18:13:45 Zorg : which are the rank 10 / 18 clothes?
2010-11-12 18:14:13 kukker : i don't reallly know
2010-11-12 18:14:17 bcfcespley : accessories
2010-11-12 18:14:17 Scott : We dont have rank 10 clothes i dont think
2010-11-12 18:14:20 bcfcespley : and anything
2010-11-12 18:14:20 Scott : rank 18 is a coat
2010-11-12 18:14:32 kukker : :O
2010-11-12 18:14:45 Zorg : bcfc I'm sure will get that done
2010-11-12 18:14:47 Zorg : Anything else?
2010-11-12 18:14:53 kukker : okay i got something little
2010-11-12 18:14:59 Pie : we know.
2010-11-12 18:15:01 Food : XD
2010-11-12 18:15:04 KevinMp : xD
2010-11-12 18:15:05 Altiar : {XD}
2010-11-12 18:15:08 Jobu : XD
2010-11-12 18:15:11 Risque : Poor Kukker :(
2010-11-12 18:15:18 kukker : im not sur ehow this is an issue or how it's working..
2010-11-12 18:15:25 Food : Lmao
2010-11-12 18:15:27 kukker : since im not av.. but meh let go
2010-11-12 18:15:28 Scott : You;re making it worse
2010-11-12 18:15:47 Jobu : let go
2010-11-12 18:15:48 Zorg : I'm gonna type the complete works of shakespear, lets see who finishes first.
2010-11-12 18:15:50 anialator : and quoted
2010-11-12 18:15:54 Scott : XD
2010-11-12 18:16:02 Scott : To be or not to be
2010-11-12 18:16:09 Ross : thats Shakespere btw
2010-11-12 18:16:16 jonkers : It is not in our hearts to suffer...
2010-11-12 18:16:17 QQz : Shakespeare.
2010-11-12 18:16:19 KevinMp : thank you ross -_- xD
2010-11-12 18:16:20 Pie : Anyway, let TC talk
2010-11-12 18:16:22 kukker : let's say person 1 standing on a square.. only on a revive.. person 2 phases in. person 1 uses /hide and then he get's scanne dby person 2 and moving arrows disapear and make him killed
2010-11-12 18:16:32 kukker : i haven't tested because im not av -_-
2010-11-12 18:16:35 Scott : ...
2010-11-12 18:16:43 Scott : Are you asking us to test a system thats working?
2010-11-12 18:16:50 Jobu : :X
2010-11-12 18:16:50 anialator : XD
2010-11-12 18:16:52 KevinMp : when u get revealed, u cant move right away
2010-11-12 18:16:55 Scott : or askign us to do soemthing you can ask a fellow gang member o.o ?
2010-11-12 18:17:00 kukker : as said i don't know if it's the way it work or not
2010-11-12 18:17:11 Zorg : I'm confused...
2010-11-12 18:17:15 Pie : The movement arrows dissapear when you get scanned..?
2010-11-12 18:17:25 KevinMp : u cant move instantly
2010-11-12 18:17:25 kukker : i just got i told right here at legcon by pm
2010-11-12 18:17:27 anialator : When you get scanned it kinda make sense to not be able to move immediatley.
2010-11-12 18:17:36 kukker : yea pie
2010-11-12 18:17:38 Jobu : agreed
2010-11-12 18:17:39 Scott : oh i c
2010-11-12 18:17:40 Zorg : So you not only want /shadow to stun
2010-11-12 18:17:44 Zorg : You want /scan to stun now as well?
2010-11-12 18:17:53 Pie : No.. They're saying scan stuns as it is
2010-11-12 18:17:54 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 18:18:00 Tibos : :) /scan already stuns, you made it that way :P
2010-11-12 18:18:01 kukker : i didn't got that told :/
2010-11-12 18:18:01 Jobu : as it should
2010-11-12 18:18:04 KevinMp : it already does. if im hiding and get scanned, i cant move for a few seconds regardless
2010-11-12 18:18:05 maceybhoy : I have an idea
2010-11-12 18:18:11 maceybhoy : make a /stun ability xD
2010-11-12 18:18:12 Scott : Scan is fine if i may say so...
2010-11-12 18:18:21 Bacardi : macey wins.
2010-11-12 18:18:22 Pie : You may not say so.. You don't play, Scott
2010-11-12 18:18:23 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 18:18:23 Zorg : Yes it does stun...
2010-11-12 18:18:27 anialator : Macey hell yes
2010-11-12 18:18:34 Scott : Pfft systems comes under me! :P
2010-11-12 18:18:36 Zorg : So you want it to not stun?
2010-11-12 18:18:41 kukker : i think the person say it to me meant it like remove the stun effecrt
2010-11-12 18:18:43 Zorg : ...in which case rejected. It stuns for a reason. -_-
2010-11-12 18:18:49 Scott : Who told you btw?
2010-11-12 18:18:51 Bacardi : Stun is what we want.
2010-11-12 18:18:57 Zorg : It already stuns!
2010-11-12 18:19:04 KevinMp : -_- xD
2010-11-12 18:19:05 Pie : make it stun.
2010-11-12 18:19:11 KevinMp : it does already!!! xD xD
2010-11-12 18:19:12 Zorg : when you get pulled out of cloak or hide by scan it locks movement for 10 seconds...
2010-11-12 18:19:13 Pie : :D
2010-11-12 18:19:13 Jobu : I want a Stun gun.
2010-11-12 18:19:13 kukker : i go for the /stun ability
2010-11-12 18:19:15 bcfcespley : i think we should make scan stun
2010-11-12 18:19:19 anialator : Dont remove stun is what were saying
2010-11-12 18:19:21 KevinMp : 18:19:14 [Zorg] when you get pulled out of cloak or hide by scan it locks movement for 10 seconds...
2010-11-12 18:19:22 KevinMp : ty!
2010-11-12 18:19:28 Scott : so you want us to remove the stun effect
2010-11-12 18:19:29 Zorg : We have no plans to remove the stun... :/
2010-11-12 18:19:33 Scott : and make stun an ability
2010-11-12 18:19:33 Bacardi : It's always been like that Kev........
2010-11-12 18:19:34 jonkers : no scott
2010-11-12 18:19:35 Jobu : :yes:
2010-11-12 18:19:38 kukker : yes
2010-11-12 18:19:39 KevinMp : i know :P xD
2010-11-12 18:19:43 Scott : You know
2010-11-12 18:19:45 Zorg : God no
2010-11-12 18:19:48 Scott : no offense but judging here
2010-11-12 18:19:51 anialator : no
2010-11-12 18:19:52 Scott : most people cant type that fast
2010-11-12 18:19:55 Jobu : lol
2010-11-12 18:19:55 KevinMp : just keep it as is -_- can we move on?
2010-11-12 18:19:56 Zorg : Then like 10 people could keep you stun locked for an hour -_-
2010-11-12 18:20:06 Zorg : enough interupted TC anyway
2010-11-12 18:20:07 jonkers : XD
2010-11-12 18:20:10 Pie : use that invunerable move?
2010-11-12 18:20:11 Zorg : as broken and fragmented as their ideas are.
2010-11-12 18:20:13 Pie : radiance
2010-11-12 18:20:16 Zorg : *interupting
2010-11-12 18:20:25 Scott : I'm waiting on a fire Zorg suggestion :P
2010-11-12 18:20:26 Zorg : Anything else TC?
2010-11-12 18:20:39 kukker : uhmmmm
2010-11-12 18:20:53 Jobu : more from kukker plz.
2010-11-12 18:20:56 kukker : toyic just said me to ask for 8 new wl maps xD
2010-11-12 18:21:03 Scott : tell him to go die
2010-11-12 18:21:03 Ross : LOL
2010-11-12 18:21:05 QQz : ... Wow.
2010-11-12 18:21:15 Altiar : I have got nothing more.
2010-11-12 18:21:19 Zorg : Ok then
2010-11-12 18:21:19 kukker : take that toyic xD
2010-11-12 18:21:22 maceybhoy : Scott
2010-11-12 18:21:24 Pie : QQz, stop talking..
2010-11-12 18:21:24 Zorg : That concludes the gang part of LegCon
2010-11-12 18:21:25 Tibos : elders?
2010-11-12 18:21:26 maceybhoy : Be nice }:(
2010-11-12 18:21:41 Zorg : who is accepting messages from none speakers? o.O
2010-11-12 18:21:54 Zorg : room should be moderated...
2010-11-12 18:21:57 Scott : Im going to have fun in the logs tomorrow
2010-11-12 18:22:02 Zorg : Anyway...
2010-11-12 18:22:03 anialator : Legacy needs more brothels :O
2010-11-12 18:22:07 KevinMp : -_-
2010-11-12 18:22:08 Zorg : Few things I wanted to discuss.
2010-11-12 18:22:11 Ross : elders?
2010-11-12 18:22:15 Ross : *cough*
2010-11-12 18:22:19 Zorg : what about the Elders?
2010-11-12 18:22:23 Zorg : why what do you want to say? -_-
2010-11-12 18:22:38 Ross : i thought elders got to suggest things like gangs did?
2010-11-12 18:22:42 Zorg : Fine...
2010-11-12 18:22:45 maceybhoy : xD
2010-11-12 18:22:47 Zorg : Go, you're all part of gangs though
2010-11-12 18:22:47 Scott : Just... get it over with :P
2010-11-12 18:22:49 LordofD : lol
2010-11-12 18:22:51 Zorg : It's not like you're rogue elders
2010-11-12 18:22:52 Tibos : JB?
2010-11-12 18:22:55 Ross : right
2010-11-12 18:23:03 Jobu : I have one forgotten suggestion. Make the War Lord/Master rank build and have access to buildings in the WL.
2010-11-12 18:23:03 Tibos : oh...go ahead, Ross
2010-11-12 18:23:05 kukker : elder because grey comes after blue o.O
2010-11-12 18:23:12 Zorg : No you can't have a flat screen TV in the Elder's lounge.
2010-11-12 18:23:16 Jobu : damn
2010-11-12 18:23:16 Zorg : You already have the bar. -_-
2010-11-12 18:23:21 Ross : first of all, I'd like to thank Deeg for putting on this seminar this evening
2010-11-12 18:23:23 Jobu : bars do rock though
2010-11-12 18:23:25 Ross : secondly
2010-11-12 18:23:27 bcfcespley : lmao
2010-11-12 18:23:28 Ross : WL achievements
2010-11-12 18:23:32 Pie : Lmao..
2010-11-12 18:23:39 Ross : me and bcfc have basically finished the list
2010-11-12 18:23:44 Zorg : right?
2010-11-12 18:23:49 Ross : and most of the art is done
2010-11-12 18:23:51 Scott : Gee thanks ross
2010-11-12 18:23:56 Scott : this info is making my day
2010-11-12 18:23:57 Zorg : You realise how many of them I'm going to break when I implement this new warfare right?
2010-11-12 18:24:06 Ross : ...new warfare?
2010-11-12 18:24:09 Scott : yeah
2010-11-12 18:24:16 Zorg : As part of the new combat system...
2010-11-12 18:24:17 Scott : we're making huggable teddys and stuff
2010-11-12 18:24:22 Jobu : welcome ot legcon, Ross. thanks for playing.
2010-11-12 18:24:27 Scott : ok
2010-11-12 18:24:27 maceybhoy : and lazer pets
2010-11-12 18:24:31 bcfcespley : lol
2010-11-12 18:24:33 Scott : Jobu can you resay your point
2010-11-12 18:24:37 Tibos : War Advisor addition: Allow the War Advisor (rank 14) to start buildings in the Wasteland and to activate objectives (ERS and Radar Jammer)
2010-11-12 18:24:37 Ross : right, but surely that wouldnt the effect the requirements of achievements?
2010-11-12 18:24:38 Scott : as ive seen that too many times :P
2010-11-12 18:24:44 Zorg : Players don't want more achievements right now, they want this combat system. I'll get to the warfare achievements when I get to them.
2010-11-12 18:24:47 Jobu : what Tibos said
2010-11-12 18:24:53 Jobu : what Zorg said!
2010-11-12 18:25:08 Jobu : achievements are lame.
2010-11-12 18:25:10 bcfcespley : well when its added in 2090 zorg
2010-11-12 18:25:11 Zorg : I did the casino achievements to pass some time, I'm not adding more until more important things are finished.
2010-11-12 18:25:16 kukker : i want the achievement xD
2010-11-12 18:25:16 Scott : Any gangs disagree with the rank 14 thing?
2010-11-12 18:25:17 bcfcespley : then you can tell us to re do the list =]
2010-11-12 18:25:26 KevinMp : i completely agree :)
2010-11-12 18:25:30 Risque : Rank 14 idea is a good one
2010-11-12 18:25:32 Nitrous : I honestly don't know why it hasn't been done already...
2010-11-12 18:25:33 kukker : 'agree!
2010-11-12 18:25:38 Jobu : nice.
2010-11-12 18:25:39 Zorg : Fine rank 14, whatever.
2010-11-12 18:25:39 Ross : right, thats fiar enough
2010-11-12 18:25:41 Food : Rank 13 can build etc..I don't think they should be able to, I think rank 14 should have this ability instead of 13.
2010-11-12 18:25:43 Zorg : Anything else from Elders?
2010-11-12 18:25:44 Food : So I agree
2010-11-12 18:25:56 Tibos : something about clothing
2010-11-12 18:25:58 Scott : So you want it removed from 13 too?
2010-11-12 18:26:02 Bacardi : No
2010-11-12 18:26:05 Zorg : Scott HUSH
2010-11-12 18:26:05 Bacardi : Just added to 14.
2010-11-12 18:26:06 kukker : no
2010-11-12 18:26:07 zerocomman : no
2010-11-12 18:26:09 Food : Removed from 13, added to 14.
2010-11-12 18:26:10 Ross : yeah, delte any accounts from the database beginning with "J" and ending in "obu"
2010-11-12 18:26:17 Jobu : XD
2010-11-12 18:26:20 Bacardi : 13 should be allowed to build?
2010-11-12 18:26:20 Jobu : <3 Ross
2010-11-12 18:26:25 Tibos : i don't know details, Ross could you say the clothing idea ?
2010-11-12 18:26:30 Zorg : Only if you change your name to JRossobu
2010-11-12 18:26:31 Ross : oh yeah
2010-11-12 18:26:35 Bacardi : They have access to all resources of gang.
2010-11-12 18:26:38 Jobu : lol
2010-11-12 18:26:38 Ross : clothing
2010-11-12 18:26:48 Food : I'd rather rank 12+ be able to build, but I doubt many feel this way
2010-11-12 18:26:49 Zorg : Fix gang ranks
2010-11-12 18:26:50 Zorg : got it
2010-11-12 18:26:53 Zorg : can we PLEASE move on
2010-11-12 18:26:55 Jobu : yes, clothing. more of it.
2010-11-12 18:27:03 Zorg : Not my department
2010-11-12 18:27:04 Bacardi : Not 12+, just 13 and 14.
2010-11-12 18:27:05 Jobu : i want Zorgs old wings
2010-11-12 18:27:14 Zorg : I swear to god if one more person mentions gang ranks >.<
2010-11-12 18:27:19 Scott : Jobu > Ticket
2010-11-12 18:27:22 zerocomman : we'd like a bonfire to burn angel's clothing as well
2010-11-12 18:27:22 Jobu : :O
2010-11-12 18:27:22 Ross : I put up the discussion in elders the other day, about being able to purchase special event clothing.....the general consensus was that maybe it would take the appeal away from special events if people could wear the outfits all year round
2010-11-12 18:27:24 Scott : ill send it direct to bcfc
2010-11-12 18:27:27 KevinMp : lets just move on -_- xD
2010-11-12 18:27:28 Zorg : I know the war master stuff needs fixing, forgot about it.
2010-11-12 18:27:32 Zorg : It will be done, enough already.
2010-11-12 18:27:33 Jobu : :yes:
2010-11-12 18:27:43 Ross : yeah stfu
2010-11-12 18:27:46 Ross : you had your chance
2010-11-12 18:27:50 Zorg : Ross...
2010-11-12 18:27:53 Ross : sorry
2010-11-12 18:27:54 Zorg : You interupted me talking about that
2010-11-12 18:27:58 Zorg : So you could question it yourself?
2010-11-12 18:28:06 Zorg : Ok Elders time is done. You're by far the worst tonight -_-
2010-11-12 18:28:13 Tibos : faelust would like to see lagoon monsters with faezorz ... that stun
2010-11-12 18:28:14 Scott : Ross you're fired
2010-11-12 18:28:18 Ross : well i did put the point up
2010-11-12 18:28:27 KevinMp : tibos. no she doesnt. YOU want that xD
2010-11-12 18:28:28 jonkers : not just lagoon monsters though
2010-11-12 18:28:29 Ross : but people decided tp flog the rank 14 horse instead -_-
2010-11-12 18:28:34 jonkers : and seconded
2010-11-12 18:28:34 Zorg : Ok enough talking crap now.
2010-11-12 18:28:39 Risque : Can we re-visit the discussion on vanity rewards for leveling above 80?
2010-11-12 18:28:56 Pie : So that's a maybe..
2010-11-12 18:28:57 Zorg : Gang discussion time is over.
2010-11-12 18:29:04 Zorg : I want to discuss the topics I have to discuss now
2010-11-12 18:29:09 Zorg : So if you could stop interupting me that would be awesome.
2010-11-12 18:29:28 Zorg : A lot of people have requested that special outfit items be purchasable for use all year round.
2010-11-12 18:29:45 Zorg : This gets requested every year, normally around halloween.
2010-11-12 18:30:06 Zorg : Personally, I think it diminishes the fun of special events a bit if people can use stuff all year round.
2010-11-12 18:30:14 Scott : ^ agreed
2010-11-12 18:30:26 Zorg : But we could have items purchasable (for subscription) for year round use... and then release them to everyone as we do now at special events.
2010-11-12 18:30:30 Zorg : What do gangs think about this idea?
2010-11-12 18:30:30 Ross : thats what the elders basically said
2010-11-12 18:30:41 Ross : it takes the gloss off special events
2010-11-12 18:30:41 Zorg : Great ross, thanks for that.
2010-11-12 18:30:43 Ross : simple put
2010-11-12 18:30:44 Pie : how about keeping hte stuff that was made for this halloween locked until next halloween and then the stuff that's made for next halloween locked after that until the next halloween..
2010-11-12 18:30:45 JayDerZ : Well I think that it should be kept as just a holiday thing.
2010-11-12 18:30:47 jonkers : I agree with the diminishing the fun part
2010-11-12 18:30:57 KevinMp : i guess when u put it like that :/
2010-11-12 18:31:01 kukker : i say no, it ruins the fun of having special oufits
2010-11-12 18:31:17 LordofD : It would diminish the whole experiance of the holiday then :/
2010-11-12 18:31:19 bcfcespley : Wait here guys
2010-11-12 18:31:25 Ross : if you make them available all year round, how are they any different to regular clothes that get added? :/
2010-11-12 18:31:28 DMaster : I agree, it takes away a lot of the uniqueness from the special events.
2010-11-12 18:31:34 Ross : thats kinda the appeal of halloween clothes....we get them once ayear
2010-11-12 18:31:34 anialator : Make it so not ALL of the items can be used year round, like things obviously related to halloween or christmas are not purchaseable
2010-11-12 18:31:35 Zorg : You have to buy them individually?
2010-11-12 18:31:42 Jobu : special outfits are nice and fun, but the fact that people want them, clearly means we'd like some fresh items to look at and wear, etc.
2010-11-12 18:31:46 KevinMp : that would have been the idea, zorg
2010-11-12 18:31:54 Scott : Problem jobu
2010-11-12 18:31:59 maceybhoy : Keep subscription bought clothes and event clothes separate?
2010-11-12 18:32:00 Jobu : :O
2010-11-12 18:32:00 Scott : outfits take time :P
2010-11-12 18:32:03 Ross : meh, everyone would be able to afford them anyway
2010-11-12 18:32:05 Scott : like a lot
2010-11-12 18:32:06 KevinMp : but now it sounds like a crap idea :P
2010-11-12 18:32:15 Matty : I see buying them individually, but for a high price
2010-11-12 18:32:15 Jobu : true, but many who can create them, have submitted them and they hav ebeen rejected.
2010-11-12 18:32:17 Nitrous : have an expiration date on special clothes
2010-11-12 18:32:19 Scott : and it took a good few months just for halloween clothes atm
2010-11-12 18:32:22 JoeBloggs : Back, had to drive GF across town.
2010-11-12 18:32:26 Pie : sell each piece for like.. a week of sub xD
2010-11-12 18:32:27 JoeBloggs : Soz
2010-11-12 18:32:27 Jobu : if you have people willing to lend a hand, why refuse them?
2010-11-12 18:32:39 Zorg : ...because we have a standard to keep in our graphics
2010-11-12 18:32:46 Zorg : If they were rejected they did not reach our standard, sorry.
2010-11-12 18:32:51 Food : I think SOME should be available for purchase, like iron man suit..but stuff like santa suit should be only for the event
2010-11-12 18:32:53 Neltharion : Put some up, but make them freakishly expensive. Like, 25k for a shirt. Yaya for money sinks.
2010-11-12 18:32:57 Jobu : meh.
2010-11-12 18:33:04 Bacardi : Food ::yes::
2010-11-12 18:33:07 Ross : high prices make them more exclusive
2010-11-12 18:33:12 Pie : they shouldn't be bought with credits..
2010-11-12 18:33:19 Zorg : I don't know if we have enough outfit items to do that.
2010-11-12 18:33:23 Scott : I got too many mails asking for my old greg costume to be added :P
2010-11-12 18:33:27 bcfcespley : Meh matter of fact is im not having 3000 santa clauses roaming around in august.
2010-11-12 18:33:27 Bacardi : Subtime is reasonable Pie?
2010-11-12 18:33:28 BladezG2 : i dont see how clothes are gonna help with the staleness of legacy ;)
2010-11-12 18:33:34 LordofD : what if you had to pay double the sub time in order to keep the special clothes?
2010-11-12 18:33:35 Pie : Yeah, I was thinking subtime
2010-11-12 18:33:40 Zorg : subtime can be bought for credits anyway... and helps keep the game running
2010-11-12 18:33:46 Zorg : So selling them for subtime... is selling them for credits.
2010-11-12 18:33:55 Ross : yeah standards of clothing are super high, jobu
2010-11-12 18:34:02 maceybhoy : Who let bladez talk :/
2010-11-12 18:34:02 Zorg : Why let people sink credits in to outfits when they can buy subtime off other players and support the game :/
2010-11-12 18:34:10 Bacardi : Not I.
2010-11-12 18:34:14 Pie : yes.. but if you sold them just for credits nobody would buy the sub to sell so people coule buy it to buy the clothes..
2010-11-12 18:34:18 Matty : I say keep the holiday items as it is :P
2010-11-12 18:34:19 KevinMp : he came in here of his own free will
2010-11-12 18:34:20 Ross : because they'd rather spend items on outfits than support the game? X{XD}
2010-11-12 18:34:21 Jobu : Ross: I've seen some of the rejections. They were very good, and creative. But oh well.
2010-11-12 18:34:31 bcfcespley : holiday items are not being released to buy lol
2010-11-12 18:34:33 Food : I suggest if we implement this new idea, that we go through all the clothes and choose what should be bought and what should remain as a holiday event.
2010-11-12 18:34:35 bcfcespley : not in a million years
2010-11-12 18:34:36 zerocomman : can i just ask how clothes make this game any more fun? this is a really minor issue
2010-11-12 18:34:42 Pie : oh.. i thought i was being argued against xD
2010-11-12 18:34:44 Ross : bcfc has killed the suggestion
2010-11-12 18:34:46 Scott : And this is LegCon..
2010-11-12 18:34:51 bcfcespley : although
2010-11-12 18:35:00 bcfcespley : NEW special outfits id more than be happy to do
2010-11-12 18:35:04 bcfcespley : marvel themes
2010-11-12 18:35:07 bcfcespley : stuff like that
2010-11-12 18:35:13 kukker : i still say no, it simply ruions the exclusiveness of the outfits
2010-11-12 18:35:13 KevinMp : Ahh. Like NON holiday things
2010-11-12 18:35:15 Ross : i mean
2010-11-12 18:35:15 Jobu : the items that are specifically holiday, like santa, or pumpkin crap, should stay holiday. But storm trooper armor, or iron man, hokvcey mash, those should be able to be bought.
2010-11-12 18:35:17 Ross : we have jobu
2010-11-12 18:35:21 Ross : reported as useless
2010-11-12 18:35:25 Ross : zerocomman
2010-11-12 18:35:27 Scott : I suppose we can do new outfits and take old stuff and release :P
2010-11-12 18:35:28 Ross : reported as doing naff all
2010-11-12 18:35:34 Ross : :/
2010-11-12 18:35:36 Scott : Maybe give out Zorgs G2 coat :o
2010-11-12 18:35:43 KevinMp : Yes! Auction it off! xD
2010-11-12 18:35:45 JoeBloggs : Agreed with Jobu tbh
2010-11-12 18:35:49 Zorg : The other part of this would be to take the current subscibrer only items, and incorporate them in to this system.
2010-11-12 18:36:02 Jobu : like an exchange?
2010-11-12 18:36:06 Scott : Wouldnt that take stuff from subbers tho ?
2010-11-12 18:36:07 Pie : Pssh.. Zorg's old char look still isn't available
2010-11-12 18:36:11 Jobu : wait, scratch that comment
2010-11-12 18:36:13 Zorg : No like... you would have to buy them individually if you wanted them.
2010-11-12 18:36:19 kukker : take the currently sub clothe and make to normal players and make new sub items=
2010-11-12 18:36:21 Jobu : Pie: not the wings!
2010-11-12 18:36:22 JoeBloggs : Yet another reason not to subcribe?
2010-11-12 18:36:24 Nitrous : or set an expiration date on the clothing
2010-11-12 18:36:33 Ross : This might sound a bit out there, but how about certain special clothing items rewarded in the lottery?
2010-11-12 18:36:36 Matty : Maybe keep the very related items (such as a jack-o-lantern head and a santa suit) as per holiday, and the not-related stuff (such as the storm trooper) to be bought
2010-11-12 18:36:37 Zorg : Yes, we'll put all our efforts in to making new clothes kukker.
2010-11-12 18:36:39 Scott : Yeah but then you're not renting the clothes so to speak you're buying
2010-11-12 18:36:42 Zorg : Screw other updates, lets just do that. -_-
2010-11-12 18:36:45 bcfcespley : You people dont get it lol
2010-11-12 18:36:52 Bacardi : How did Matty talk? O.o
2010-11-12 18:36:59 Scott : Matty
2010-11-12 18:37:01 Scott : Shut up
2010-11-12 18:37:02 zerocomman : who let matty in here?
2010-11-12 18:37:03 Zorg : Like I said before, this isn't a massive office with hundreds of people just sitting around bored.
2010-11-12 18:37:03 Matty : I was wondering that {XD}
2010-11-12 18:37:06 Jobu : Matty: thanks for saying what I already said.
2010-11-12 18:37:08 Tibos : winning clothes at the lottery, priceless :yes:
2010-11-12 18:37:08 Zorg : Making clothes takes A LOT of time
2010-11-12 18:37:12 LordofD : lol
2010-11-12 18:37:14 Ross : :D
2010-11-12 18:37:32 Ross : i think it works tbh
2010-11-12 18:37:42 Jobu : Zorg: recruit some to desgin clothing. if they suck, can them.
2010-11-12 18:37:42 Ross : the lottery winners are few and far between
2010-11-12 18:37:51 Zorg : Ok
2010-11-12 18:37:51 Ross : it keeps clothes exclusive and gives people more reason to enter
2010-11-12 18:37:52 Scott : We do that already jobu
2010-11-12 18:38:03 Jobu : I meant more, heh
2010-11-12 18:38:05 maceybhoy : Jobu i believe bcfc does that. xD
2010-11-12 18:38:07 Jobu : I know you do
2010-11-12 18:38:09 Zorg : The other idea I had based off this, was to change the entire subscription system in to a micro-transaction system instead.
2010-11-12 18:38:11 Scott : We're in the process of moving all of development into one clan atm :P
2010-11-12 18:38:14 Scott : hint hint ;p
2010-11-12 18:38:19 Jobu : DMaster does excellent work. beg him to do more.
2010-11-12 18:38:22 Zorg : Which would basically work like....
2010-11-12 18:38:24 Zorg : Ok stop talking now -_-
2010-11-12 18:38:28 Scott : We already blackmail him :(
2010-11-12 18:38:29 bcfcespley : yeah zorg hint hint lol
2010-11-12 18:38:30 Zorg : Learn when to be quiet
2010-11-12 18:38:35 Jobu : dang.
2010-11-12 18:38:49 Bacardi : lol
2010-11-12 18:39:02 Zorg : So micro-transactions would be, instead of buying a subscription that gets used up over time.
2010-11-12 18:39:13 Zorg : You buy a new form of currency, like subscription that does not get used up.
2010-11-12 18:39:19 Zorg : That then is spent on benefits that you want.
2010-11-12 18:39:36 KevinMp : Like another form of currency :)
2010-11-12 18:39:38 Zorg : So the current subscriber perks would become purchasable perks, with this new currency.
2010-11-12 18:39:41 BladezG2 : how much to plow you mom?
2010-11-12 18:39:45 Jobu : can we use this currency for pet clothing?
2010-11-12 18:39:46 Zorg : Things like friends list would be a one time purchase and you keep it forever.
2010-11-12 18:39:57 Altiar : i like that idea
2010-11-12 18:40:06 kukker : i had a support to this idea!
2010-11-12 18:40:10 Pie : buy extra friend slots..
2010-11-12 18:40:11 Zorg : Others like.... ability bonus would be a boost that lets a set period of time after purchase
2010-11-12 18:40:13 kukker : have*
2010-11-12 18:40:24 Zorg : Things like outfits would be one time purchases.
2010-11-12 18:40:28 Nitrous : I like that...
2010-11-12 18:40:32 Zorg : As would extra trades on items purchased from shops
2010-11-12 18:40:38 KevinMp : And we would be able to trade this extra currency?
2010-11-12 18:40:39 kukker : like if you then want to buy clothe with this feature, make a preview function then?
2010-11-12 18:40:42 Jobu : like legacy-credits, that makes sense.
2010-11-12 18:40:44 Nitrous : not so keen on the extra trades :/
2010-11-12 18:40:44 Zorg : correct
2010-11-12 18:40:49 bcfcespley : So we would literally have to re buy all the current perks we get from sub time?
2010-11-12 18:40:51 Zorg : It would trade just like subscription time.
2010-11-12 18:41:00 jonkers : Could we buy different pets with it? or maybe differnt lasers?
2010-11-12 18:41:03 KevinMp : Sweet :D i agree completely
2010-11-12 18:41:07 Zorg : Your current subtime would be converted in to this currency, and you could use it to purchase whatever you wanted.
2010-11-12 18:41:12 Tibos : so we just buy them once and we never have to worry about that again?
2010-11-12 18:41:19 Scott : jonkers our LC vet put down all animals, sorry.
2010-11-12 18:41:46 Zorg : Just so you know the plus side to this is... one time purchase of inventory space / friends list and you have them forever.
2010-11-12 18:42:01 Zorg : The down side would be... things like ability point bonus would require regular purchase of boosts.
2010-11-12 18:42:18 Altiar : seems fair
2010-11-12 18:42:19 KevinMp : i dont c y not :O
2010-11-12 18:42:19 anialator : What about trades? A 1 time purchase gets you 3t on all items forever?
2010-11-12 18:42:22 Pie : or..
2010-11-12 18:42:27 Nitrous : So I could run out of subtime yet still have 20 inventory spaces?
2010-11-12 18:42:28 Zorg : No you pay per item.
2010-11-12 18:42:34 Zorg : Yes.
2010-11-12 18:42:35 Pie : your next 10 drops/purchases costs so much
2010-11-12 18:42:36 Pie : or something..
2010-11-12 18:42:38 anialator : :c
2010-11-12 18:42:47 Nitrous : ah ok, yeah I like this then...
2010-11-12 18:42:53 zerocomman : isn't the sub market already screwed up enough as it is?
2010-11-12 18:42:56 Zorg : It would take careful planning to make sure we don't end up making lots less money.
2010-11-12 18:43:07 Tibos : i like the current subscription much better
2010-11-12 18:43:11 bcfcespley : Seems to much hassle tbh
2010-11-12 18:43:15 kukker : but what about if you want to preview clothe items you want to buy with this feature
2010-11-12 18:43:21 jonkers : I agree with tibos and bcf
2010-11-12 18:43:22 kukker : ?
2010-11-12 18:43:24 Ross : wouldnt say subs are "screwed up"
2010-11-12 18:43:26 Scott : Sounds like im getting a to-do list :P
2010-11-12 18:43:28 Food : I agree with tibos, I also fear it would make you lose money in the end Zorg.
2010-11-12 18:43:28 anialator : I really don't like games with purchaseable currency.
2010-11-12 18:43:28 Ross : its a player dictated market
2010-11-12 18:43:34 Zorg : The reason the micro-transaction system is better than a subscription system.... is that some people have LOTS of money in real life and these people will make up for the people who don't spend much if any.
2010-11-12 18:43:43 KevinMp : Scott u said u needed something to do til christmas ;) xD
2010-11-12 18:43:58 Jobu : I like the sub system as it is, but thisis what we HAVE to do to get access to other clothing items?
2010-11-12 18:44:00 Zorg : If you give people a ton of stuff to buy and say spend as much as you want... some people will spend less... some people will spend a lot more.
2010-11-12 18:44:02 bcfcespley : Is this about whats better for the game or your bank balance? XD
2010-11-12 18:44:08 Ross : Zorg, would you care to disclose how much you make off subs per month
2010-11-12 18:44:08 anialator : We can buy these legacy credits of off other players for normal credits right?
2010-11-12 18:44:10 Ross : or per annum
2010-11-12 18:44:14 Scott : We will balance it out btw
2010-11-12 18:44:35 Zorg : You can see how many subscribers we have and you can see the cost of subscription Ross. :/
2010-11-12 18:44:49 Ross : but people can buy subs with c's
2010-11-12 18:44:51 Tibos : Ross 221*52*cost of 1 week of sub
2010-11-12 18:44:52 Ross : i'm talking real cash
2010-11-12 18:44:59 Jobu : right
2010-11-12 18:45:00 Zorg : Not nearly enough for Legacy to continue like this forever, which is why I said this combat system was an all or nothing thing.
2010-11-12 18:45:08 Ross : right
2010-11-12 18:45:09 Toyic : All subs were bought with real cash to begin with.
2010-11-12 18:45:12 Risque : What is your net income from the selling of sub time?
2010-11-12 18:45:18 maceybhoy : The subscripts still have to be bought
2010-11-12 18:45:25 Tibos : 10000$ i think?
2010-11-12 18:45:28 Zorg : It either makes the game take off more, or my focus moves to other things that I can actually make a living from.
2010-11-12 18:45:29 maceybhoy : so it doesn't matter if they are sold on for c's later
2010-11-12 18:45:43 Scott : ok
2010-11-12 18:45:49 Scott : Think we should move on :P
2010-11-12 18:45:58 Food : I've always just supported adding more advantages to subscribers, that way more people will want sub which means more subtime will be pruchase
2010-11-12 18:45:58 KevinMp : yeah... definetely
2010-11-12 18:46:02 Food : Purchased*
2010-11-12 18:46:14 jonkers : Not to rush or anything but could this be disscussed when there is a final plan in mind? So we can move on?
2010-11-12 18:46:15 Zorg : I think subscription doesn't sell fast enough on the market at present... and some people who have the income to spend more on Legacy would do so if there was more to buy.
2010-11-12 18:46:28 Jobu : makes sense
2010-11-12 18:46:38 bcfcespley : i can garuntee special clothing would make sub sell XD
2010-11-12 18:46:43 Jobu : right
2010-11-12 18:46:44 zerocomman : subs sell slowly because they cost 1200c+ per week right now XD
2010-11-12 18:46:45 Zorg : So yes, I think micro-transactions would make more money for Legacy... but not from those who cannot afford it.
2010-11-12 18:46:48 Jobu : i'd use it for that
2010-11-12 18:47:13 Zorg : Plus the current trade in subscription for stuff like permanent account things is... counter intuitive
2010-11-12 18:47:28 KevinMp : To confirm, you said this new currency will be tradeable, correct?
2010-11-12 18:47:30 Zorg : But yeah, next... I forget
2010-11-12 18:47:32 maceybhoy : 221 subscribers - around $250-$330 a week?
2010-11-12 18:47:34 Zorg : Oh yeah, Legacy Affairs
2010-11-12 18:47:38 KevinMp : Similar to how credits are transferred?
2010-11-12 18:47:40 Nitrous : scrap it!
2010-11-12 18:47:45 Zorg : correct
2010-11-12 18:47:50 kukker : i don't like the idea... keep the sub as it is
2010-11-12 18:47:51 KevinMp : Perfect :) ty
2010-11-12 18:48:01 jonkers : Moving on?
2010-11-12 18:48:07 Zorg : faelust is currently the ONLY member of Legacy Affairs to be active and frequent our RC client
2010-11-12 18:48:23 bcfcespley : So is special clothing a yes or no :S so confused
2010-11-12 18:48:36 Zorg : Even though people like FatTony frequent the game daily, I have yet to see them in RC checking logs or doing anything involved with Legacy Affairs :/
2010-11-12 18:48:42 Tibos : FatTony solved my issue recently in a very satisfying and professional way :O
2010-11-12 18:48:50 Tibos : no details
2010-11-12 18:48:55 Zorg : ...and he did that without talking to staff? or viewing logs? :/
2010-11-12 18:49:02 Ross : ...
2010-11-12 18:49:03 Ross : wow
2010-11-12 18:49:06 bcfcespley : oh god
2010-11-12 18:49:07 Jobu : :X
2010-11-12 18:49:09 Tibos : he talked to staff, i don't think he needed to check logs
2010-11-12 18:49:11 bcfcespley : a time and a place not on legcon
2010-11-12 18:49:14 JoeBloggs : xD
2010-11-12 18:49:27 Zorg : My point is Legacy Affairs are supposed to bridge the gap between staff and players.
2010-11-12 18:49:33 Zorg : ...and they're currently not forfilling this role. :/
2010-11-12 18:49:37 Pie : I think I saw FT in RC a week ago or something
2010-11-12 18:49:43 maceybhoy : I say sack the leader of LA
2010-11-12 18:49:52 Pie : I may sack the community admin.
2010-11-12 18:49:56 maceybhoy : >.<
2010-11-12 18:49:57 Ross : tbh, I like FT, but he doesnt play the game anymore
2010-11-12 18:49:59 maceybhoy : Which one?
2010-11-12 18:50:04 faelust : both!
2010-11-12 18:50:04 Food : How much does LA get used? Is it really needed to begin with?
2010-11-12 18:50:05 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 18:50:05 Pie : the active one
2010-11-12 18:50:06 Ross : you could argue there would be better people suited to the role
2010-11-12 18:50:11 bcfcespley : lets face it
2010-11-12 18:50:12 Zorg : A lot of the staff are currently hated by players, and this cannot go on.
2010-11-12 18:50:16 maceybhoy : Good choice *goes inactive*
2010-11-12 18:50:17 bcfcespley : only person who does any work around here is me
2010-11-12 18:50:21 bcfcespley : :P
2010-11-12 18:50:23 Ross : lmao
2010-11-12 18:50:24 JoeBloggs : FT would be put to better use being a Staff member.
2010-11-12 18:50:27 Jobu : Zorg: agreed.
2010-11-12 18:50:27 Zorg : Enough with the sarcasm and jokes. -_-
2010-11-12 18:50:30 jonkers : Could we have more active players in LA ?
2010-11-12 18:50:38 Scott : FT doesnt want a staff placement.
2010-11-12 18:50:43 Zorg : I don't want a million players in staff chat though.
2010-11-12 18:50:47 Ross : so why is he still around?
2010-11-12 18:50:48 Tibos : sry all, gtg now. great LegCon so far :yes:
2010-11-12 18:50:51 Zorg : It's supposed to be that... staff chat.
2010-11-12 18:50:52 Scott : Jonkers the current are active
2010-11-12 18:50:53 JoeBloggs : Laters Tib
2010-11-12 18:50:56 faelust : Jonkers, we did get new members
2010-11-12 18:50:58 maceybhoy : FT is my right hand man
2010-11-12 18:50:58 Scott : just not in the areas we need :/
2010-11-12 18:51:00 maceybhoy : leave him be
2010-11-12 18:51:02 faelust : this was voted on by the elders..
2010-11-12 18:51:10 Ross : with the greatest respect, he is involved enough with the game and its community in comparison to others
2010-11-12 18:51:16 Ross : isnt*
2010-11-12 18:51:18 jonkers : side not : how are you guys making my name bleep ?
2010-11-12 18:51:19 bcfcespley : FT should just be staff
2010-11-12 18:51:26 Jobu : let Zorg continue.
2010-11-12 18:51:34 Zorg : The problem is he doesn't play the game and is a moderator... so when it comes to players attitude towards him
2010-11-12 18:51:37 JoeBloggs : He pretty much thinks of himself as a Staff anyway bcfc
2010-11-12 18:51:37 Zorg : He may as well be staff...
2010-11-12 18:51:42 Ross : exactly
2010-11-12 18:51:46 Zorg : I need players that other players like to fill this gap.
2010-11-12 18:51:47 KevinMp : quick point :O Any chance we will be hosting more of the "Crime Scene" games?
2010-11-12 18:51:50 KevinMp : a simple yes or no will suffice
2010-11-12 18:51:50 Food : Perhaps you guys need to give LA members a wake up call? If that doesn't work then replace them with different members till you have the team you need.
2010-11-12 18:52:02 Scott : ffs one topic at once
2010-11-12 18:52:04 Zorg : seriously
2010-11-12 18:52:06 Zorg : keep interupting me
2010-11-12 18:52:15 KevinMp : :(
2010-11-12 18:52:18 Zorg : We're trying to have a serious conversation here, if you don't want to be part of it... leave.
2010-11-12 18:52:20 Ross : I dont think you need players who are necessarily well liked, just those who know the community and the current stae of affairs, gamewise
2010-11-12 18:52:29 LordofD : If most the the LA members are inactive, then tell them to either kick in in gear, or replace them :/
2010-11-12 18:52:30 Ross : state*
2010-11-12 18:52:41 Zorg : Something needs to be done, because I'm tired of staff getting constant flack from players.
2010-11-12 18:52:50 Scott : Well would you guys prefer our team
2010-11-12 18:52:52 Pie : xD
2010-11-12 18:52:55 Scott : or do you want it cut down?
2010-11-12 18:52:57 Pie : Players don't like being punished
2010-11-12 18:53:01 JoeBloggs : People who inforce authority are nearly always disliked. You can see it in society. It won't change
2010-11-12 18:53:01 Pie : Simples.
2010-11-12 18:53:04 Zorg : There isn't a single player here who has any respect for staff that are taking their own time to volunteer at jobs that keep this game running.
2010-11-12 18:53:11 Ross : Theres not alot you can do, you wont change the perception of players to staff if they dont like them
2010-11-12 18:53:28 Food : You're wrong Zorg, I have no problem with staff at all.
2010-11-12 18:53:39 Ross : respect and popularity
2010-11-12 18:53:40 Altiar : im willing to volunteer :P
2010-11-12 18:53:42 Ross : 2 very different things
2010-11-12 18:53:43 KevinMp : i think its the maturity level of some players, tbh :x
2010-11-12 18:53:45 Food : The community on this game has gone down hill, I blame them not staff
2010-11-12 18:53:46 Zorg : I get that some staff attitudes can be disrespectful at times, but when you're enforcing rules you can't always say please. -_-
2010-11-12 18:53:50 KevinMp : i had a gripe with a staff a few days back, but i got over it xD
2010-11-12 18:53:52 kukker : i have problems with some of the staf others not
2010-11-12 18:53:56 Scott : Will you all stop talking for a sec -_-
2010-11-12 18:53:57 LordofD : i would have to agree with food on this one, i have no problem with any staff member what so ever, and i like every one of them
2010-11-12 18:54:08 Scott : We're on LA
2010-11-12 18:54:11 Scott : Staff is next
2010-11-12 18:54:15 Pie : No we're not
2010-11-12 18:54:16 Pie : Lol
2010-11-12 18:54:19 Ross : ...
2010-11-12 18:54:20 Ross : lmao
2010-11-12 18:54:25 Scott : Staff is the next point
2010-11-12 18:54:28 Zorg : It's the same issue, Legacy Affairs is supposed to stop this crap.
2010-11-12 18:54:38 Ross : stop what exactly? :/
2010-11-12 18:54:43 Ross : people perceptions of others?
2010-11-12 18:54:48 Ross : if they dont get along, they dont get along
2010-11-12 18:54:52 Ross : thats society for you XD
2010-11-12 18:54:53 Zorg : Stop the constant threads ranting about staff members and such.
2010-11-12 18:55:03 zerocomman : hey you're the one who kept the flame forum
2010-11-12 18:55:04 anialator : Never had issues with staff here. :P
2010-11-12 18:55:15 Scott : Flame forum is being edited soon :P
2010-11-12 18:55:16 Zorg : The idea is if they have a complaint they go to LA, LA are players... if they don't side with you then you're just an idiot. -_-
2010-11-12 18:55:19 Pie : scrap Flame
2010-11-12 18:55:23 bcfcespley : Lol one players thread doesnt reflect 3000 players
2010-11-12 18:55:27 jonkers : agreed pie
2010-11-12 18:55:35 Zorg : No but the 100s of replies such threads get does.
2010-11-12 18:55:49 KevinMp : Yeah.. get rid of that. I feel like it just causes problems
2010-11-12 18:55:51 Toyic : I like flame. Just needs to be moderated a tad for content.
2010-11-12 18:55:56 Zorg : The flame forum was all Ross's dumb idea :(
2010-11-12 18:56:00 Scott : Toyic
2010-11-12 18:56:00 Jobu : haha
2010-11-12 18:56:02 Jobu : figures
2010-11-12 18:56:03 Scott : We edit flame
2010-11-12 18:56:03 KevinMp : i post it in, but not as much as i could
2010-11-12 18:56:07 Neltharion : bcfc, when we see people who dont know us jumping on a bandwaggon and flaming, it's a little disheartening.
2010-11-12 18:56:08 Scott : we get anti staff threads
2010-11-12 18:56:12 Food : So many players on this game are trolls, I don't even pay mind to them complaining about staff..It's just bandwagoning..It's cool to hate on staff, when infact staff does a good job and the staff team is a good team. (without angel)
2010-11-12 18:56:13 Scott : whats the point XD
2010-11-12 18:56:15 KevinMp : 18:56:05 [Scott] We edit flame YES!
2010-11-12 18:56:33 Toyic : Remove em :p I like using flame for jokes, etc. Especially those that are innapropriate and would be removed in the off topic :P
2010-11-12 18:56:40 Scott : Right now only things that break UK law are edited out
2010-11-12 18:56:43 maceybhoy : I haven't had an Anti-macey thread yet
2010-11-12 18:56:44 Pie : Scott was saying that if we edit flame we get anti staff threads. Even for illegal topics.
2010-11-12 18:56:46 maceybhoy : I'm upset
2010-11-12 18:56:46 jonkers : Game vote on wether to remove flame or not?
2010-11-12 18:56:53 Scott : so terrorism. child porno etc ...
2010-11-12 18:56:58 Scott : and yes those have been posted near enough
2010-11-12 18:56:59 Jobu : macey is awesome, that's why
2010-11-12 18:57:00 bcfcespley : Every legcon is like a repeat
2010-11-12 18:57:04 bcfcespley : we want flame forum
2010-11-12 18:57:05 Zorg : The flame forum should be cleaned up with the new TOS anyway
2010-11-12 18:57:07 bcfcespley : now we dont want it!
2010-11-12 18:57:08 jonkers : agreed jobu
2010-11-12 18:57:12 Zorg : It remains to see whether it even serves a purpose once it is.
2010-11-12 18:57:17 jonkers : macey>> DF we need 2 reps
2010-11-12 18:57:24 Scott : You guys need to decide if you want that forum or not
2010-11-12 18:57:29 faelust : Is there a way to possibly build in a link to LA ticket in the automated dfavor message people receive such as "If you disagree with this click here to state your case to LA member" and it can create the appropriate ticket? That way people have opportunity
2010-11-12 18:57:40 Jobu : i've never been to the flame forum. it's not important to me.
2010-11-12 18:57:46 faelust : to contact right away rather than let their anger towards staff fester and errupt.
2010-11-12 18:57:53 Scott : Good job Jobu :)
2010-11-12 18:58:05 Zorg : I guess we could add that...
2010-11-12 18:58:06 Jobu : fae: good idea.
2010-11-12 18:58:08 bcfcespley : if you saw the threads about you jobu, you would ;)
2010-11-12 18:58:20 Jobu : dang
2010-11-12 18:58:24 Jobu : now i have to look. -_-
2010-11-12 18:58:26 faelust : a lot of people still dont know LA exists nor how to use it properly. this would at least give them that option.
2010-11-12 18:58:35 maceybhoy : You would get silly people disagreeing to being disfavoured
2010-11-12 18:58:38 Zorg : Are Lucas and Skorne even alive?
2010-11-12 18:58:43 maceybhoy : for spamming sidechat and not stopping xD
2010-11-12 18:58:43 faelust : no idea.
2010-11-12 18:58:44 Scott : Yes :/
2010-11-12 18:58:45 Zorg : Haven't seen either of them in RC at all :/
2010-11-12 18:58:46 Toyic : Agreed. I didn't know LA existed for forever.
2010-11-12 18:58:50 bcfcespley : skorne is i saw him in asda few weeks ago
2010-11-12 18:58:53 LordofD : Tbh, i didn't know LA existed until 2 years ago :/
2010-11-12 18:58:55 Scott : Ok,
2010-11-12 18:59:03 Scott : so what areas should we promote LA
2010-11-12 18:59:06 Neltharion : Lucas was in RC once or twice. I think.
2010-11-12 18:59:09 Scott : that arent already promoted.
2010-11-12 18:59:13 Scott : Mails, what else?
2010-11-12 18:59:15 Ross : Skorne isnt active enough for LA
2010-11-12 18:59:24 zerocomman : skorne still plays? XD
2010-11-12 18:59:25 kukker : 00:58:27 [faelust] a lot of people still dont know LA exists nor how to use it properly. this would at least give them that option. ME!
2010-11-12 18:59:34 Ross : hes too pussywhipped by his missus to care for it atm
2010-11-12 18:59:35 maceybhoy : I have 3 anti-macey threads in flame now >.<
2010-11-12 18:59:51 Food : How about players can assign tickets to LA?
2010-11-12 18:59:59 faelust : We have that already food.
2010-11-12 19:00:06 Pie : Yeah
2010-11-12 19:00:08 LordofD : Why not list who is in LA near the staff list?
2010-11-12 19:00:10 Risque : Or at least a mention of LA in the ticket verbage
2010-11-12 19:00:12 Pie : LA's taking over my ticket group
2010-11-12 19:00:15 kukker : staff is counting their own anitxxxx threads xD try to beat each other in how much they gain
2010-11-12 19:00:15 Pie : -.-
2010-11-12 19:00:29 Scott : Ok
2010-11-12 19:00:34 Jobu : who let kukker talk again
2010-11-12 19:00:40 kukker : :(
2010-11-12 19:00:46 Scott : So to stop going in circles
2010-11-12 19:00:47 Zorg : That's all I wanted to discuss anyway.
2010-11-12 19:00:50 anialator : XD
2010-11-12 19:00:58 Scott : Are you happy with the current numbers of la
2010-11-12 19:00:58 KevinMp : ok im done here. this is just repetitive arguements now
2010-11-12 19:01:01 jonkers : is that the end :o
2010-11-12 19:01:20 bcfcespley : How is tibos not in LA?
2010-11-12 19:01:22 jonkers : Do we get pets now?
2010-11-12 19:01:27 Jobu : Zorg: any further details on the level cap stuff?
2010-11-12 19:01:29 Pie : number of people in LA's fine
2010-11-12 19:01:31 Zorg : No
2010-11-12 19:01:32 Food : How often does LA get used? Do we need more due to amount of work? Or are the quality of the members the problem?
2010-11-12 19:01:33 Pie : ask Elders, not here
2010-11-12 19:01:38 Jobu : o.O
2010-11-12 19:01:38 Zorg : Number of people is fine
2010-11-12 19:01:41 Zorg : Their activity is not
2010-11-12 19:01:46 Food : If it's the members, give them a chance to step up or replace them
2010-11-12 19:01:50 Scott : Yeah pie!
2010-11-12 19:01:53 Zorg : If they can't make it in to RC atleast once every couple of nights, they should not be in LA
2010-11-12 19:01:56 Scott : get them active :P
2010-11-12 19:02:01 Scott : Zorg
2010-11-12 19:02:02 jonkers : Tell them to increase activity in La or they will be replaced?
2010-11-12 19:02:02 bcfcespley : What happens if a member of LA gets disfavour?
2010-11-12 19:02:05 Pie : LA isn't my problem
2010-11-12 19:02:06 bcfcespley : XD
2010-11-12 19:02:10 Scott : Can we do what we do to staff
2010-11-12 19:02:13 Pie : well.. it is when they come to me
2010-11-12 19:02:15 Pie : which is never
2010-11-12 19:02:15 Jobu : jonkers: agreed.
2010-11-12 19:02:16 Scott : force them to login RC
2010-11-12 19:02:25 Food : You have several active elders that would make a good addition to the LA team!
2010-11-12 19:02:25 Zorg : Not really :/
2010-11-12 19:02:30 Jobu : they have a standard to uphold
2010-11-12 19:02:35 Scott : hm :(
2010-11-12 19:02:37 Jobu : if they can't do it, they lose their position
2010-11-12 19:02:38 bcfcespley : Food tibos
2010-11-12 19:02:40 Zorg : Both the Elders list and the LA list need to be reviewed
2010-11-12 19:02:42 bcfcespley : theyre ideal for la
2010-11-12 19:02:49 Scott : I'll do that tonight! :P
2010-11-12 19:03:07 Zorg : And I'll see if I can mention LA in a few places so players are aware of them.
2010-11-12 19:03:11 Zorg : Anything we've missed?
2010-11-12 19:03:14 zerocomman : weren't you supposed to review the elders list last legcon?
2010-11-12 19:03:16 bcfcespley : your penis
2010-11-12 19:03:19 bcfcespley : haha
2010-11-12 19:03:22 Scott : We did zercomman
2010-11-12 19:03:26 zerocomman : riiiiiight
2010-11-12 19:03:27 Jobu : pets with lasers.
2010-11-12 19:03:30 Scott : you can ask any elder
2010-11-12 19:03:34 zerocomman : lagoon monsters with lasers
2010-11-12 19:03:37 jonkers : pet clothes
2010-11-12 19:03:40 Scott : i've removed people -_-
2010-11-12 19:03:43 Jobu : XD
2010-11-12 19:03:49 Zorg : Ok then, this LegCon is over I guess.
2010-11-12 19:03:51 jonkers : gang ranks ?
2010-11-12 19:03:52 Jobu : ok, color me wrong, i had fun here.
2010-11-12 19:03:58 Matty : I can talk now :o
2010-11-12 19:04:04 Scott : Ill send Zorg the gang rank stuff
2010-11-12 19:04:07 Scott : now :P
Finish: 2010-11-12 19:04:07