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LegCon #4
Hosted by: Scott, Zorg
Date: 20th March 2011
With: Scott, Zorg, dk16, DMaster, Shade, Macey, mohith, Lucas, Pascal and Neltharion.
OC Reps: N/A
BoD Reps: PlatyPus, darp, KevinMP, DBall13, inFamous
TC Reps: Toyic, anialator, 007Ben and Goku
DF Reps: Jobu and grzesiek17
Elder Reps: Tibos, bcfcespley and HappyDays.

Start: 2011-03-20 18:14:24

2011-03-20 18:14:24 Scott: Basic rules then i'll hand over to Gustav
2011-03-20 18:14:33 Scott: Welcome to LegCon
2011-03-20 18:14:33 grzesiek17: .
2011-03-20 18:14:44 inFamous: :D
2011-03-20 18:14:48 Scott: These events are here to better the game for us and yourselves
2011-03-20 18:15:12 Scott: We value all opinions and use this to give mass feedback, some things may not happen but we fulyl explain why not
2011-03-20 18:15:31 Scott: Each gang has a rep - if you wish to say something forward it to them, everyone else will be silenced
2011-03-20 18:15:48 Scott: In the current situation if you try to avoid this I dont blame mods if they ban you
2011-03-20 18:16:04 Scott: Can all reps please use gang colours
2011-03-20 18:16:09 Scott: Staff purple and Elders grey
2011-03-20 18:16:37 Scott: Each gang will have the same ammount of time, so please dont interupt a gang rep.
2011-03-20 18:16:45 Scott: You will have your say we dont value ignorance.
2011-03-20 18:17:09 Scott: Also this isnt a complaint event if you're here to just say everything sucks I;m sure facebook is online.
2011-03-20 18:17:20 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 18:17:28 Zorg: yes please incourage people to post that on our facebook -_-
2011-03-20 18:17:28 Scott: Finally - Staff are here to administrate chat along side mods
2011-03-20 18:17:37 Scott: You have no right to abuse them in anyway
2011-03-20 18:17:39 KevinMp: gj scott -_- xD
2011-03-20 18:17:39 dk16: Everything sucks!
2011-03-20 18:17:46 Scott: I didnt say our facenook }:(
2011-03-20 18:17:50 Scott: er facebook*
2011-03-20 18:17:55 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 18:17:57 Scott: Over to Zorg
2011-03-20 18:18:03 bcfcespley: what sort of moron posts on facebook anyway?
2011-03-20 18:18:11 Zorg: why is bcfc white? o.O
2011-03-20 18:18:15 Zorg: that is my colour
2011-03-20 18:18:19 Tibos: he is banned :P
2011-03-20 18:18:21 bcfcespley: racist -_-
2011-03-20 18:18:21 anialator: :O
2011-03-20 18:18:22 Toyic: :o
2011-03-20 18:18:24 DBall13: ... :x
2011-03-20 18:18:26 KevinMp: that sounds mighty racist >.> xD
2011-03-20 18:18:26 inFamous: XD
2011-03-20 18:18:27 anialator: Bcf beat me to it
2011-03-20 18:18:30 Zorg: Ok
2011-03-20 18:18:33 Toyic: Tibos, I can't even read that.
2011-03-20 18:18:34 Zorg: First topic is the new WF map
2011-03-20 18:18:44 Zorg: Which I'm sure you've all read about in the forum
2011-03-20 18:19:06 Zorg: Right now I'm thinking of some sort of day / night cycle
2011-03-20 18:19:16 Zorg: Maybe with some roaming NPCs that attack people at night
2011-03-20 18:19:20 Toyic: Werewolves?
2011-03-20 18:19:30 anialator: Oh god Toyic no
2011-03-20 18:19:32 Zorg: As for objectives, I haven't decided on those yet.
2011-03-20 18:19:41 Zorg: HQs will be movable with pretty equal starting positions
2011-03-20 18:19:41 KevinMp: You also said something about it involving the old phoenix hive
2011-03-20 18:19:46 Toyic: Best incarnation of the WW game EVER.
2011-03-20 18:19:49 Zorg: yeah well it will be based around that
2011-03-20 18:19:55 KevinMp: perhaps the romaing npc's are a remnant of them? :O
2011-03-20 18:20:14 Zorg: Yes, the NPCs will be hostile to all (assuming I can get it to work)
2011-03-20 18:20:20 Zorg: maybe with an objective that protects your gang from them
2011-03-20 18:20:29 KevinMp: sneaky ;)
2011-03-20 18:20:35 Toyic: This sounds amazing. We finally get roaming npcs we were promised :D
2011-03-20 18:20:36 Jobu: Phoenix Drops?
2011-03-20 18:20:37 anialator: NPC's that kill off AFK players would be a cool addition, and as for objectives, I like the idea of needing multiple objectives to activate something
2011-03-20 18:20:38 Platypus: what type of level gauge will they get?
2011-03-20 18:20:55 Zorg: we'll see, I've tested roaming NPC AI in the past... I don't know if anyone nosted the ghostly creature I had wandering around the wasteland for a few days.
2011-03-20 18:21:00 anialator: Perhaps level would depend on how close they are to a certain area of the map
2011-03-20 18:21:12 Zorg: *noticed
2011-03-20 18:21:17 Toyic: There we go, ani. The closer you get to the hive ruins, the stronger they get?
2011-03-20 18:21:24 grzesiek17: The idea of NPC's killing afk people sounds interesting
2011-03-20 18:21:36 Zorg: The ghostly wandering creatures may make an appearance again while I test that side of the scripting.
2011-03-20 18:21:41 Platypus: but whats the definination of "AFK" on some maps or at some times
2011-03-20 18:21:46 Tibos: any changes will probably be welcome, but i hope day/night cycles don't correspond with real life day/night cycles. I'd hate to only be able to log on Legacy during the day and miss out on the night NPC's or the other way around.
2011-03-20 18:21:48 Platypus: because if you roam around forums while AFK on a square
2011-03-20 18:21:53 Platypus: wouldn't that count as well?
2011-03-20 18:22:04 anialator: No, they don't attack afk players, they would attack everyone, however players who are afk could not retaliate and therefore would be killed.
2011-03-20 18:22:06 Scott: Afk would define people sitting on a square doing nothing or on a square thats 100% not moving
2011-03-20 18:22:09 Zorg: yes that is an issue with the day / night idea
2011-03-20 18:22:17 Pascal: some time control objective?
2011-03-20 18:22:21 Tibos: a simple 30 hour cycle would do wonders ;)
2011-03-20 18:22:23 Zorg: they would wander and attack anyone they came across
2011-03-20 18:22:37 anialator: Or just a 24 hour cycle
2011-03-20 18:22:38 Zorg: except for the gang that controlled their objective
2011-03-20 18:22:47 Toyic: Okay, now one to the real discussion. Pets.
2011-03-20 18:22:51 Risque: And what sort of impact will day/night cyles have (as in attacking, etc.)? Any preliminary ideas?
2011-03-20 18:22:55 Lynx: 24 hour cycle using the server time clock
2011-03-20 18:22:56 Zorg: I may just make the cycle random like the frozen phase of the current map
2011-03-20 18:22:58 KevinMp: Perhaps night could be a negative effect and the gang controlling the objective would eb safe?
2011-03-20 18:23:04 Food: It would be nice to have them have drops, something to make it more interesting then annoying.
2011-03-20 18:23:07 Zorg: They will only be hostile at night...
2011-03-20 18:23:12 Zorg: Like spiders in minecraft! :D
2011-03-20 18:23:16 Risque: :O
2011-03-20 18:23:17 Food: Should it be a med or a chance at a pill etc.
2011-03-20 18:23:18 KevinMp: haha -_- xD
2011-03-20 18:23:22 Lynx: :(
2011-03-20 18:23:25 anialator: Day and night should not be random lol
2011-03-20 18:23:29 Toyic: Oh God, minecraft.
2011-03-20 18:23:30 Neltharion: Wasteland Creepers!
2011-03-20 18:23:35 Lynx: agree with ani
2011-03-20 18:23:39 dk16: How is the Day/Night Cycle going to work when our Server Clock doesn't even work properly? :P
2011-03-20 18:23:42 Zorg: but yeah whatever I do rest assured there will be one giant wandering scary one that eats everyone
2011-03-20 18:23:44 Platypus: this could easily be put into a new crafting type of system as well, make it rare since this will only happen for 3 months every once and a while
2011-03-20 18:23:45 Toyic: And I'm in agreeance with ani here.
2011-03-20 18:23:52 Scott: That will change with BST DK :P
2011-03-20 18:23:53 Zorg: ...what is wrong with our server clock? :/
2011-03-20 18:23:54 007Ben: i like the random factor of it
2011-03-20 18:23:54 Scott: im guessing
2011-03-20 18:23:55 Macey: In... I think it was an expansion for AoE. They had this sort of cave thing which came out of the ground and these werewolf things popped out. The closer you got to it the the more hostile they were (could be level in this case) but if you owned the little
2011-03-20 18:23:59 defosage: 18:23:25 [6Vincent6] Day and night could effect the exposure, day time your expo runs normal or maybe a bit slower, while in the night you become colder, making expo rise faster?
2011-03-20 18:24:01 Macey: cave thing they wouldn't attack you
2011-03-20 18:24:03 Toyic: It's an hour behind what it should be, Zorg.
2011-03-20 18:24:04 dk16: No Daylight Savings Time.
2011-03-20 18:24:04 anialator: I haven't noticed anything wrong with the server clock?
2011-03-20 18:24:08 Zorg: No it is not
2011-03-20 18:24:09 anialator: Oh right :roll:
2011-03-20 18:24:14 007Ben: yep, 1 hour off
2011-03-20 18:24:15 anialator: Stop moaning about it newbz
2011-03-20 18:24:18 Zorg: It switches DST when the EST time zone switches DST
2011-03-20 18:24:29 Toyic: EST time zone switched last sunday :P
2011-03-20 18:24:31 DBall13: EST already switched
2011-03-20 18:24:34 Zorg: :/
2011-03-20 18:24:35 darp: Someone asked if the npc could drop a spectral.
2011-03-20 18:24:42 DBall13: it seems to be on UK switch schedule?
2011-03-20 18:24:46 dk16: EST timezone reporting in, we switched a while back.
2011-03-20 18:24:48 Fiction: yeah the clock is on central time right now
2011-03-20 18:24:50 anialator: Spectral is later Darp
2011-03-20 18:24:50 inFamous: I'd say with wanderers, i noticed that players can be gaining squares while offline, maybe have those players be killed off by wanderers
2011-03-20 18:24:59 Zorg: weird
2011-03-20 18:25:07 darp: /me hates spectrals. Make it much later. ;)
2011-03-20 18:25:09 bcfcespley: are we here to talk about big ben or damn updates? XD
2011-03-20 18:25:10 Zorg: Anyway yeah any ideas for other objectives, let me know.
2011-03-20 18:25:17 inFamous: because i seen turdus in on a square last online 45 minutes ago,
2011-03-20 18:25:18 Tibos: submit it as a bug then, i'm sure Zorgy can deal with it later
2011-03-20 18:25:19 Toyic: Big ben is much prettier.
2011-03-20 18:25:20 007Ben: no need for names >:( XD
2011-03-20 18:25:35 Zorg: So many people using white text -_-
2011-03-20 18:25:36 Toyic: I know people have made tickets :D
2011-03-20 18:25:41 KevinMp: in the suggestion forum, i saw an objective idea that would "Clear" a square
2011-03-20 18:25:41 Toyic: hahahahaha.
2011-03-20 18:25:44 Lynx: xD
2011-03-20 18:25:45 defosage: XD
2011-03-20 18:25:45 007Ben: lmfao
2011-03-20 18:25:45 Risque: Is there a possibility in having the map duration shortened, since people seem to get bored with maps after 6 weeks or so?
2011-03-20 18:25:46 Zorg: Ok well there is a thread about that, so it doesn't matter so much.
2011-03-20 18:25:47 Platypus: I've used white text for like 4years+ now :X
2011-03-20 18:25:48 KevinMp: As in, all players dead, 0%
2011-03-20 18:25:51 Platypus: I think I'm due to stay white xD
2011-03-20 18:25:58 Zorg: No Risque, because changing the map is a lot of work for me.
2011-03-20 18:26:02 Toyic: Why would we do that Risque?
2011-03-20 18:26:03 Risque: Ok
2011-03-20 18:26:10 bcfcespley: zorg on beahlf of the disabled community that text is not colourblind friendly XD
2011-03-20 18:26:13 Toyic: This map is a new one, I want to extend it by three months, if anything.
2011-03-20 18:26:30 Zorg: lol
2011-03-20 18:26:33 DBall13: ::no::
2011-03-20 18:26:39 Zorg: Ok next point of discussion
2011-03-20 18:26:44 Toyic: Pets?
2011-03-20 18:26:48 Zorg: This will take some explaining so be quiet for a bit.
2011-03-20 18:26:50 Platypus: no pets -_-
2011-03-20 18:26:53 bcfcespley: shut up
2011-03-20 18:26:55 bcfcespley: ffs
2011-03-20 18:26:56 007Ben: pets :no:
2011-03-20 18:27:00 Toyic: Shhh, Bender.
2011-03-20 18:27:01 Zorg: ....seriously, hush
2011-03-20 18:27:08 007Ben: ::no:: *
2011-03-20 18:27:16 Zorg: We're scrapping the current subscription system.
2011-03-20 18:27:29 Lynx: :(
2011-03-20 18:27:31 Zorg: Basically
2011-03-20 18:27:41 Zorg: We're going to make a new currency
2011-03-20 18:27:43 Toyic: Microtransactions :D
2011-03-20 18:27:54 Zorg: Your current subscription will be turned in to this new currency
2011-03-20 18:27:54 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 18:27:55 DBall13: ::yes::
2011-03-20 18:28:10 Zorg: This currency will be static and will not count down like subscription does now.
2011-03-20 18:28:27 Zorg: But having it will not offer any perks like the current subscription does.
2011-03-20 18:28:45 Zorg: You will then be able to use this currency to purchase temporary and permanent things for your account.
2011-03-20 18:28:59 Zorg: Temporary things will be things like... a temporary boost to ability points gained per hour.
2011-03-20 18:29:14 Zorg: A one time use item that adds a trade to a newly purchased item
2011-03-20 18:29:20 Zorg: Basically replacing current perks for subscribers.
2011-03-20 18:29:28 Zorg: Permanent features you can pay for once then have forever will include...
2011-03-20 18:29:33 Zorg: Expanded inventory space
2011-03-20 18:29:35 Zorg: Friends List
2011-03-20 18:29:43 Zorg: And.... outfits
2011-03-20 18:29:46 anialator: Such as the purchaseable clothing idea that was proposed a while back?
2011-03-20 18:29:51 Zorg: correct
2011-03-20 18:29:53 bcfcespley: yes
2011-03-20 18:29:53 Jobu: right
2011-03-20 18:29:53 KevinMp: <3
2011-03-20 18:29:57 inFamous: {3
2011-03-20 18:29:59 Lynx: wouh!
2011-03-20 18:30:00 Platypus: but with that, will have you have to buy piece by piece?
2011-03-20 18:30:01 Platypus: or in sets?
2011-03-20 18:30:02 Zorg: All current subscriber outfits will become 1 time purchase items, that you can buy if you like then have forever.
2011-03-20 18:30:06 Zorg: You will buy them in sets
2011-03-20 18:30:11 Zorg: or individually if you wish
2011-03-20 18:30:27 Zorg: There will be sales on items, all sorts... new sets, etc
2011-03-20 18:30:31 KevinMp: So someone in our forum is wondering if we will be able to buy holiday items from it. will we be able to?
2011-03-20 18:30:33 Food: I'm not sure how I feel about this, I guess time will tell..what about the extented turn cap, a one time purchase?
2011-03-20 18:30:36 Toyic: We discussed this last legcon, but it was shot down. Are you saying that you intend to move forward with this despite dissent in community?
2011-03-20 18:30:38 Platypus: another one, what would be the sub/new currency exchange rate? EX: 1 week of sub gives you a full week of gained ability points
2011-03-20 18:30:42 Zorg: When you purchase an item of clothing a percentage of the price you pay for that item.
2011-03-20 18:30:43 darp: Question: is currency purchased with real dollars, in-game credits, both?
2011-03-20 18:30:48 Zorg: Will be going to the artist who designed it
2011-03-20 18:30:56 007Ben: would each gang have its own clothes? or the same?
2011-03-20 18:31:00 DBall13: so the sub we have now will br transferred to comparable amount of new sysytem?
2011-03-20 18:31:01 Zorg: Giving them motivation to make new cool stuff
2011-03-20 18:31:06 Zorg: correct DBall
2011-03-20 18:31:10 Platypus: so like paying them basically?
2011-03-20 18:31:13 Zorg: and yes you will still be able to trade this new currency for credits
2011-03-20 18:31:17 anialator: Now thats an incentive :X
2011-03-20 18:31:18 defosage: would you be allowed to purchase turns?
2011-03-20 18:31:24 inFamous: that is amazing :D
2011-03-20 18:31:24 Zorg: No
2011-03-20 18:31:34 anialator: People interested in this may want to check out the Legacy Graphics Clan recently created by DMaster
2011-03-20 18:31:39 KevinMp: Will holiday items be available?
2011-03-20 18:31:43 Risque: How would price be determined?
2011-03-20 18:31:43 Scott: Legacy will never offer sub for turns - it causes too many problems.
2011-03-20 18:31:47 Zorg: Also in to this system we have plans like special outfits... that will only be sold once, and players can bid on. With the highest bidder being the only player in the game to get that outfit
2011-03-20 18:31:59 KevinMp: perfect :) answeres my question :D
2011-03-20 18:32:00 Platypus: wait wait...
2011-03-20 18:32:00 Tibos: sounds good
2011-03-20 18:32:05 Zorg: All sorts of crazy ideas are possible
2011-03-20 18:32:08 Platypus: nm.
2011-03-20 18:32:20 anialator: Highest Bid should not be visible
2011-03-20 18:32:25 Platypus: thats hard though
2011-03-20 18:32:25 Zorg: But the end thing will be... if you want constant increased ability points it will cost you a regular amount
2011-03-20 18:32:28 Platypus: because who knows what to bid?
2011-03-20 18:32:30 Zorg: However, most other things will be 1 time purchases
2011-03-20 18:32:30 Toyic: Then how would it work, ani?
2011-03-20 18:32:33 anialator: However losing the Bid should not make you lose those tokens
2011-03-20 18:32:36 Lynx: i somehow don't like that idea :(
2011-03-20 18:32:37 Jobu: whata bout the increase in turns you get for being subscriber? how will that rate?
2011-03-20 18:32:38 Platypus: anialator, it should be highest bidders NAME...
2011-03-20 18:32:42 Macey: biddable outfits sound awesome
2011-03-20 18:32:43 Platypus: that way you know what the bid is, just not who did it
2011-03-20 18:32:48 bcfcespley: got the bid system covered to make it fair.
2011-03-20 18:32:50 Toyic: We don't get an increase in turns for being a subby, Jobu
2011-03-20 18:32:51 Zorg: Again that will be a one time purchase Jobu
2011-03-20 18:32:54 anialator: That works
2011-03-20 18:32:55 Zorg: he means max turns
2011-03-20 18:32:59 Toyic: Oh, gotcha.
2011-03-20 18:33:04 Zorg: for the bid system... think ebay :P
2011-03-20 18:33:06 Jobu: hmm, ok
2011-03-20 18:33:08 Risque: 18:32:54 [6Vincent6] Will the current friends list be erased when this is put in? Or will they still be there but no accessable until you purchase it?
2011-03-20 18:33:15 Food: Are we going to get more abilities, right now a good handful of the active players are very close to maxing all abilities, we are in desperate need of a few new ones. :O
2011-03-20 18:33:17 Zorg: It wont be erased :/
2011-03-20 18:33:20 anialator: But then everyone would just jump in at the alst second a few credits higher
2011-03-20 18:33:22 Zorg: it isn't even erased now if you stop subscribing
2011-03-20 18:33:24 Toyic: Oh, you're doing full on ebay style?
2011-03-20 18:33:34 Zorg: that's just one idea
2011-03-20 18:33:36 Platypus: anialator thats how an auction works :P
2011-03-20 18:33:39 Toyic: I.E. enter your max bid, and the system bids for you up to that amount?
2011-03-20 18:33:41 Risque: 18:33:11 [6Vincent6] Also, may i suggest it become larger.
2011-03-20 18:33:46 anialator: I was thinking dark orbit style
2011-03-20 18:33:48 Risque: *the friends list
2011-03-20 18:33:52 anialator: except without loss of cash if you lose
2011-03-20 18:33:56 bcfcespley: We also discussed, being able to sell your items for this new currency instead of c's.
2011-03-20 18:34:00 Platypus: yeah, paying for more F-list space would be good to
2011-03-20 18:34:06 Scott: *facepalm* Toyic go research ebay in your own time -_-
2011-03-20 18:34:12 Toyic: I use ebay all the time.
2011-03-20 18:34:13 Zorg: yes, i.e putting things in your market stand for a new currency price instead of credits
2011-03-20 18:34:14 Risque: XD
2011-03-20 18:34:14 Toyic: That's how it works.
2011-03-20 18:34:22 Tibos: that's an option: +10 friend slots for 10SUB
2011-03-20 18:34:28 Platypus: that would also work due to the fact you'll need more of that new currency for sure
2011-03-20 18:34:29 Tibos: buy it as many times as you want
2011-03-20 18:34:31 Toyic: Was simply clarifying that that was what he meant by saying ebay.
2011-03-20 18:34:34 bcfcespley: No the ebay system would not work....
2011-03-20 18:34:39 bcfcespley: everyone would be last few seconds
2011-03-20 18:34:45 anialator: Exactly
2011-03-20 18:34:51 Zorg: Basically, this system is nicer for players... because you pick and choose the things you want... buy them and then have them forever. :)
2011-03-20 18:34:56 anialator: And I don't like that whole last second bid rush
2011-03-20 18:35:03 Toyic: Anybody ever used ebay? That doesn't happen, bcf. There's a 'max bid' system on Ebay.
2011-03-20 18:35:04 darp: Nice and robust with choice. Sounds good.
2011-03-20 18:35:10 Zorg: And it is nicer for graphics designers as it gives them a reason to make more stuff
2011-03-20 18:35:11 Jobu: robust?
2011-03-20 18:35:12 darp: fugg ebay for the moment.
2011-03-20 18:35:13 Jobu: ...k
2011-03-20 18:35:14 bcfcespley: the best way is put a 24 hour time on it, everytime somone bids the time resets, eventually someone is gona make a bid that no one will want to go higher than
2011-03-20 18:35:16 anialator: But yeah overall purchaseable clothing stuff sounds cool
2011-03-20 18:35:23 Tibos: i think this is a bit better explained than last time, i seem to like it now :P
2011-03-20 18:35:27 anialator: No Bcf that could last forever
2011-03-20 18:35:30 Lynx: agree with ani again
2011-03-20 18:35:34 Zorg: ebay have had years to perfect the online auction system, I think we can manage with that
2011-03-20 18:35:36 bcfcespley: yeah it could
2011-03-20 18:35:42 Platypus: bcfcespley, but then you get people like CaptainGay who you know, do stuff just to piss people off, wait for 2 mins, then outbid no matter how high
2011-03-20 18:35:44 Platypus: just to annoy someone
2011-03-20 18:35:47 Risque: 18:35:27 [fire4smile] ask about buying auctioned clothes off someone who won the bid
2011-03-20 18:35:48 Platypus: like he did with your market
2011-03-20 18:35:49 anialator: XD
2011-03-20 18:35:51 Macey: thats like a penny auction bcfc xD
2011-03-20 18:35:52 defosage: in terms of clothes...would this also mean that if you made an outfit that was okayed by staff, you could pay to upload it for yourself?
2011-03-20 18:35:53 Platypus: that problem comes along
2011-03-20 18:35:53 Zorg: This is all just basically informing you of what is going to happen, there is one question I wanted to ask reps though.
2011-03-20 18:35:55 darp: Then we go silent auction.
2011-03-20 18:36:07 Zorg: no defosage
2011-03-20 18:36:16 defosage: okay
2011-03-20 18:36:19 Zorg: You can submit outfit items to the system to sell for comission, you can't make stuff just for yourself though
2011-03-20 18:36:20 Jobu: when will this take effect, Zorg?
2011-03-20 18:36:28 Zorg: Once it is all created and working Jobu
2011-03-20 18:36:34 bcfcespley: XD
2011-03-20 18:36:35 Jobu: Guesstimate?
2011-03-20 18:36:39 Platypus: thats a good Idea Zorg
2011-03-20 18:36:41 anialator: So the person who created it cannot get it for free as well?
2011-03-20 18:36:44 Platypus: that way more people start trying out graphics
2011-03-20 18:36:46 Zorg: The main question this raised.... is how would you like us to handle special events like christmas, easter, etc?
2011-03-20 18:36:51 Zorg: Do you still want free temporary outfits
2011-03-20 18:36:54 Toyic: Yes.
2011-03-20 18:36:55 Platypus: yeah
2011-03-20 18:36:57 anialator: Sure
2011-03-20 18:36:59 DMaster: defosage most of the time, outfits approved by the GFX admins still require edits to shading etc and other things.
2011-03-20 18:37:04 Lynx: yea
2011-03-20 18:37:05 Zorg: or would you rather have them temporarily for sale.... during the period you could buy them forever
2011-03-20 18:37:06 007Ben: yeah
2011-03-20 18:37:12 Tibos: yes, it's fun to see everyone change costumes for a few days
2011-03-20 18:37:19 Platypus: not for ever
2011-03-20 18:37:21 Lynx: the last idea
2011-03-20 18:37:24 Platypus: that would ruin the special clothing all together
2011-03-20 18:37:25 Jobu: free temp
2011-03-20 18:37:29 Tibos: yes, have them for free temporary
2011-03-20 18:37:33 Toyic: Temporary outfits. Doing otherwise would ruin the spirit.
2011-03-20 18:37:35 Zorg: I know after every event we get a lot of requests to buy costume outfits
2011-03-20 18:37:36 Lynx: temporaly sell.. buy keep forever
2011-03-20 18:37:37 anialator: Temporary free is best
2011-03-20 18:37:47 Food: The majority of the game seems to enjoy them coming out at a certain time, I think it would be best to keep it this way.
2011-03-20 18:37:50 Scott: Especially after halloween Old Greg ftw
2011-03-20 18:37:51 DBall13: why not both?
2011-03-20 18:37:58 Jobu: you just have to realize there are some outfits or items that could work year round.
2011-03-20 18:37:59 Food: Although, some halloween stuff I wouldn't mind buying.
2011-03-20 18:38:00 DBall13: free, then at end of event bid
2011-03-20 18:38:03 dk16: I hate the idea of having Santas running around all year long.
2011-03-20 18:38:05 anialator: Many seriously holiday themed things should not be made available for purchase, for example santa costumes and stuff would be stupid outside of the christmas season
2011-03-20 18:38:08 DMaster: It would look odd having 60 Santa's running around though :/
2011-03-20 18:38:13 Scott: What dk said
2011-03-20 18:38:19 Zorg: I think bcfc and myself were thinking more 50/50 ... the obviously "festive" outfits for example could be temporary and free... the more obscure ones could be temporarily for sale
2011-03-20 18:38:29 Jobu: Agreed
2011-03-20 18:38:29 darp: Could revisit the holiday clothing and see what can be pulled out, but special event stuff should be kept special.
2011-03-20 18:38:30 anialator: Yeah
2011-03-20 18:38:31 Toyic: Right, I was about to suggest that very idea.
2011-03-20 18:38:37 KevinMp: So maybe just some of them allowed, while the rest not :O
2011-03-20 18:38:41 anialator: Exactly
2011-03-20 18:38:43 Tibos: maybe a collective bid at the end of the holiday: everyone bids on their item of choice, higher bidder actually gets his, the others are kept till next time
2011-03-20 18:38:53 Platypus: does all this mean bcfc is coming back to make graphics for legacy again?
2011-03-20 18:38:56 Food: 19:38:40 [6Vincent6] Have special legacy events with sales for clothing and such, the holiday stuff should stay free and limited. The idea to have limited time clothes for sale is awesome.
2011-03-20 18:39:03 Scott: I'd say it depends on the event Valentines has that little heart teddy bear - that would be alright to buy whilst santa hats would turn you into the grinch when xmas comes around
2011-03-20 18:39:03 Zorg: like we have a black / white jacket for halloween... not obviously halloween so that could be for sale
2011-03-20 18:39:16 Zorg: where as buzz light year would probably be temporary
2011-03-20 18:39:21 anialator: Yeah
2011-03-20 18:39:22 Lynx: about the add trade points to stuff for sub...
2011-03-20 18:39:27 KevinMp: Makes sense ^.^
2011-03-20 18:39:30 bcfcespley: yes vince, that will definatly be happening
2011-03-20 18:39:33 Platypus: yes Scott, depends how "Fesitve" that item of clothing is for that tiem of year
2011-03-20 18:39:35 Lynx: someone contacted me and said it's a bad idea
2011-03-20 18:39:39 anialator: It is
2011-03-20 18:39:43 Zorg: Also every single thing you purchase from this store with this new currency will be like Steam games with a ... purchase for myself or as gift option
2011-03-20 18:39:44 Scott: Great lynx
2011-03-20 18:39:45 Lynx: it would just mess up the market value
2011-03-20 18:39:48 Scott: ... now say why
2011-03-20 18:39:49 KevinMp: So how would we go about judging how "Festive" something is?
2011-03-20 18:39:55 anialator: Trades make people think seriously about trading their item
2011-03-20 18:39:56 Toyic: I also have a question about that. Could this service be used on items such as a toolbox or ring?
2011-03-20 18:39:58 Scott: All market values will be edited :/
2011-03-20 18:40:00 anialator: Plus we have the toolbox for that
2011-03-20 18:40:09 007Ben: if its easy to tell its for that holiday, temporary
2011-03-20 18:40:13 Lynx: toolbox was a rare item event
2011-03-20 18:40:18 Zorg: I'm not going to allow endless adding of trades to items
2011-03-20 18:40:24 Zorg: as it defeats the point of them having trades to begin with
2011-03-20 18:40:29 KevinMp: Cap at 3 i assume?
2011-03-20 18:40:34 Platypus: I'd say carp at 4
2011-03-20 18:40:36 Platypus: dap*
2011-03-20 18:40:37 Scott: Too many trades will damage the game in the longrun :/
2011-03-20 18:40:39 Platypus: cap* -_-
2011-03-20 18:40:41 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 18:40:42 Platypus: like with the tool box
2011-03-20 18:40:47 Platypus: can use it on a 3t to make it 4t
2011-03-20 18:40:50 Platypus: but 4t being max
2011-03-20 18:40:56 bcfcespley: Oh hue will be removed to, the grophics guys will create clothes in a few selection of colours.
2011-03-20 18:41:01 KevinMp: I think it would ruin the idea of trades altogether being able to add them so easily
2011-03-20 18:41:02 Tibos: adding trades on existing items seems like a bad idea
2011-03-20 18:41:07 anialator: There is no need for a cap on trades because the max ou will ever get is 4
2011-03-20 18:41:10 KevinMp: Make it expensive, and it should be fine :P
2011-03-20 18:41:11 darp: Cap at adding 1 trade, I hope, and that item can never have another added.
2011-03-20 18:41:16 Jobu: Hue is getting taken away?
2011-03-20 18:41:16 anialator: Because adding trades for sub will not happen.
2011-03-20 18:41:18 Lynx: yea i say "scrap the idea off adding trades with sub"
2011-03-20 18:41:21 Zorg: Yes we're removing the hue selection for outfit items and adding the ability for artists to select which alternate colors are available.
2011-03-20 18:41:26 Tibos: i'd rather have a 1 day period on which all new items i get have +1 trade
2011-03-20 18:41:27 Toyic: Was about to say that it neededto be incredibly expensive, if added.
2011-03-20 18:41:29 Jobu: yikes
2011-03-20 18:41:34 007Ben: i like darp's idea
2011-03-20 18:41:35 Tibos: 1 day/ 1 weeks
2011-03-20 18:41:37 Zorg: So when you purchase a coat... you'll click it and be shown a selection of colors that the artist has defined for it
2011-03-20 18:41:51 anialator: :(
2011-03-20 18:41:52 Lynx: the prices would get out of wack with items having 4+ trades :/
2011-03-20 18:41:54 Zorg: rather than a broad computer generated selection that sometimes looks horrible
2011-03-20 18:41:58 Jobu: so if the artist has no taste, his item won't sell.
2011-03-20 18:42:03 anialator: be quiet Lynx no more trade talk
2011-03-20 18:42:07 Macey: Good idea, because on of the hues for ties have a big black blob at the right side :P
2011-03-20 18:42:08 Lynx: :x
2011-03-20 18:42:09 bcfcespley: exactly jobu
2011-03-20 18:42:13 Jobu: heh
2011-03-20 18:42:16 Platypus: Zorg, could you also have the option to try it on before purchasing? to see if it goes with anything else you have on?
2011-03-20 18:42:20 anialator: I actually like the hue system
2011-03-20 18:42:22 Platypus: that you've already purchased?
2011-03-20 18:42:26 Jobu: ani: me too
2011-03-20 18:42:33 Zorg: yes we could do that
2011-03-20 18:42:34 KevinMp: Like a preview... i dont c y not
2011-03-20 18:42:35 007Ben: id like being abke to change colors, it makes things more personal
2011-03-20 18:42:40 anialator: There are slightly different shades of blue for some items, and I chose the one I like the best
2011-03-20 18:42:45 Platypus: I think that would save a lot of greif in the long run
2011-03-20 18:42:50 anialator: Like the wings
2011-03-20 18:42:57 Zorg: You will still be able to change colors, it will take a while but we'll slowly build up alternate colors for lots of the items we have now.
2011-03-20 18:43:00 Platypus: so people wouldn't complain about wasting either $$ they used to buy the new currecny or the credits
2011-03-20 18:43:07 Zorg: Plus some of them will be custom colored in... instead of generically rotated through hues
2011-03-20 18:43:41 KevinMp: Cool 8)
2011-03-20 18:43:42 anialator: Yeah I noticed that on a coat I tried to recolour once
2011-03-20 18:43:50 Zorg: But yes this is basically our plan, my hope is that it will not generate less income than the current system.
2011-03-20 18:43:50 Lynx: awesome 8)
2011-03-20 18:43:53 anialator: all the colours change
2011-03-20 18:43:53 Zorg: Will remain to be seen though
2011-03-20 18:44:00 Platypus: now Zorg, could we also have a vote every once and a while run who whom ever could start up a vote on the main page like we use to have, about new outfits potentially being made?
2011-03-20 18:44:13 KevinMp: It's only adding something and not taking away
2011-03-20 18:44:18 Platypus: with player ideas?
2011-03-20 18:44:18 KevinMp: you cant miss :P
2011-03-20 18:44:19 Zorg: Outfit items will be priced based on how excentric they are, if that makes sense and all items will retain their level restrictions.
2011-03-20 18:44:20 Jobu: more new votes.
2011-03-20 18:44:21 anialator: Just more votes in general would be cool
2011-03-20 18:44:26 Jobu: all gam erelated.
2011-03-20 18:44:38 Risque: 18:44:15 [Ariel] would you have to buy the items each time for a different colour or could you change it once its purchased as many times as you want?
2011-03-20 18:44:42 Scott: There not much to Vote on though :/
2011-03-20 18:44:48 Platypus: another note, I'm assuming graphics people will still be taking ideas from the players obviously to make stuff?
2011-03-20 18:44:51 Jobu: there is always something to vote on
2011-03-20 18:44:57 anialator: "Who has the sexiest Body?"
2011-03-20 18:44:57 Jobu: even monthly
2011-03-20 18:44:58 Zorg: you would hope so
2011-03-20 18:44:59 Scott: Yes PlatyPlus
2011-03-20 18:45:07 Platypus: Platypus* xD
2011-03-20 18:45:09 Scott: Er I dont know if DMaster wants me saying
2011-03-20 18:45:11 anialator: There is a clan for that
2011-03-20 18:45:12 dk16: Look at it this way, if we don't make stuff you like, we don't get any sales.
2011-03-20 18:45:15 anialator: Ask DMaster.
2011-03-20 18:45:28 Zorg: So yeah we will probably do a mixture of some free temporary items and some temporarily for sale items during holidays.
2011-03-20 18:45:30 Scott: but we're also setting up a GFX acadamy to help people get into pixel art for Legacy
2011-03-20 18:45:39 anialator: Its already up and got people Scott
2011-03-20 18:45:40 Scott: He will say more at a later date :)
2011-03-20 18:45:41 darp: Nice idea for artist and player motivation.
2011-03-20 18:45:43 Scott: I know :P
2011-03-20 18:45:44 Zorg: I agree we don't want to see santa all year round though
2011-03-20 18:45:46 DMaster: Indeed,
2011-03-20 18:45:56 bcfcespley: yellow santas*
2011-03-20 18:46:04 Scott: Can I still vandalise your design all year round Zorg? :P
2011-03-20 18:46:09 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 18:46:14 Jobu: the acadamy sounds cool
2011-03-20 18:46:16 KevinMp: Of course some designs cant have hues >.>
2011-03-20 18:46:17 Zorg: -_-
2011-03-20 18:46:30 anialator: Yeah, those are called black and white ones Kevin
2011-03-20 18:46:32 Zorg: we're setting up a GFX Acadamy?
2011-03-20 18:46:38 DBall13: {XD}
2011-03-20 18:46:38 anialator: Bwahahaha
2011-03-20 18:46:43 Zorg: who's doing that....? o.O
2011-03-20 18:46:46 defosage: there already is one {XD}
2011-03-20 18:46:47 Scott: DM :P
2011-03-20 18:46:50 mohith: DMaster is. :p
2011-03-20 18:46:51 Lynx: {xD}
2011-03-20 18:46:55 Toyic: is the academy free?
2011-03-20 18:46:56 KevinMp: He's enacting ZROTH! 8O
2011-03-20 18:47:02 KevinMp: Stop him! xD
2011-03-20 18:47:04 anialator: You have to pay with your virginity
2011-03-20 18:47:09 Scott: I'll explain Later Zorg :P
2011-03-20 18:47:13 DMaster: It was meant to be a clan helping to teach people to make outfits
2011-03-20 18:47:13 Zorg: he realises through the thousands of players we've had through here... only like 4 have been able to make decent graphics right?
2011-03-20 18:47:14 Scott: nothing bad dont worry XD
2011-03-20 18:47:15 Toyic: ...wish I hadn't given that to a puppy.
2011-03-20 18:47:22 Scott: Yes thats why he's teaching
2011-03-20 18:47:25 defosage: but some of us have potential >:(
2011-03-20 18:47:38 anialator: He gives feedback on peoples designs and how to improve them
2011-03-20 18:47:39 Platypus: I believe he could also touch up some ideas people have to legacy standards
2011-03-20 18:47:43 dk16: I'll be there to insult everyone's artwork too.
2011-03-20 18:47:43 Zorg: they'll never meet my standards >:(
2011-03-20 18:47:45 Platypus: which would also get more stuff added faster :p
2011-03-20 18:47:47 anialator: Yeah thats what he does Platy
2011-03-20 18:47:59 darp: But with Academy guidelines factored in, stuff could be in a much better condition to be fixed up and implemented. I think it's a wicked idea.
2011-03-20 18:48:02 Scott: I see old man Zorg coming back this may :D
2011-03-20 18:48:12 Zorg: Ok so next thing we're planning on doing
2011-03-20 18:48:14 Platypus: old man zorg? :P
2011-03-20 18:48:18 KevinMp: If people donate their time, i suppose :P
2011-03-20 18:48:23 Zorg: there may be holes in this plan as we haven't really thought it through yet
2011-03-20 18:48:33 Zorg: is re-arranging items to make more logical sense
2011-03-20 18:48:34 Jobu: sounds promising
2011-03-20 18:48:41 bcfcespley: oh god zorg this is the one XD
2011-03-20 18:48:42 KevinMp: huh?
2011-03-20 18:48:44 Zorg: so a Taser isn't better than a Rocket Launcher
2011-03-20 18:48:44 anialator: Elaborate
2011-03-20 18:48:48 anialator: ah right
2011-03-20 18:48:50 Toyic: Oh, tweaking stats.
2011-03-20 18:48:51 KevinMp: ohh, right...
2011-03-20 18:48:52 Zorg: naturally this will involve redrawing some of the old rubbish graphics
2011-03-20 18:49:02 anialator: Have fun DM#
2011-03-20 18:49:05 dk16: THe ones you drew, right? :P
2011-03-20 18:49:09 Zorg: not so much stats, more just swapping around item names / images
2011-03-20 18:49:19 anialator: What of playing cards?
2011-03-20 18:49:26 DBall13: (Indrid) : nothing huge i just think it would be a good idea for them to enhance the character design selection by adding page numbers down the bottom so i can click straight to page 4 instead of clicking next 4 times
2011-03-20 18:49:26 KevinMp: It would be consfusing for a while, but the new player batch would get it
2011-03-20 18:49:29 Toyic: are playing cards going to work worse than broken bottles? :P
2011-03-20 18:49:30 Jobu: taser at close range vs rocket launcher at close range? XD
2011-03-20 18:49:42 Zorg: don't make me link your old matrix outfits dk16
2011-03-20 18:49:46 Zorg: with their funny shaped heads
2011-03-20 18:49:48 anialator: OOOOOOH!
2011-03-20 18:49:49 Platypus: this could also involve new abilities, to get max potential out of the playing cards, you'd have to max a new ability
2011-03-20 18:49:50 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 18:49:50 dk16: ;_;
2011-03-20 18:49:55 mohith: Lmao the matrix one. {XD}
2011-03-20 18:49:58 Platypus: that way your good enough to get the "Dmg" they have on them
2011-03-20 18:49:59 Neltharion: I liked those outfits
2011-03-20 18:50:02 Scott: You mean the matrix ones that looked like the AFTER car crash images? :P
2011-03-20 18:50:06 Toyic: Best idea ever Platypus.
2011-03-20 18:50:12 anialator: Seconded to Indrid's comment btw
2011-03-20 18:50:18 anialator: and thirded by Cannowns
2011-03-20 18:50:20 bcfcespley: those suits can go into the 'vintage' section fo the new subtime to buy XD
2011-03-20 18:50:26 dk16: Fourthing Indrid's
2011-03-20 18:50:27 Toyic: Fourthed(is that a word) by the sexy guy.
2011-03-20 18:50:29 007Ben: indrid ::yes::
2011-03-20 18:50:41 KevinMp: Back on topic? :O
2011-03-20 18:50:44 Zorg: new abilities specific to items? o.O
2011-03-20 18:50:48 Food: 19:50:16 [6Vincent6] Oh, and suggest the "new" logo over new graphics that are added...the new logo stays until you click on the design.
2011-03-20 18:50:57 Toyic: I'm fairly certain it was a joke.
2011-03-20 18:51:01 anialator: NO
2011-03-20 18:51:02 Scott: Like a watermark?
2011-03-20 18:51:03 KevinMp: Noooo! i feel like that would give veteran players even further advantage
2011-03-20 18:51:04 Platypus: that way, if for example, a taser is better then a rocket launcher, it's because of the ability
2011-03-20 18:51:06 Lynx: oh god
2011-03-20 18:51:07 anialator: No abilities for items
2011-03-20 18:51:12 Zorg: oh yeah we're also going to make a new tier of avatar items... but bcfc has that all planned out >.<
2011-03-20 18:51:12 Platypus: like, I don't ever see how a sword can be better then a gun
2011-03-20 18:51:12 Tibos: i think there are far better abilities proposed in the long thread in the Suggestions Forum
2011-03-20 18:51:17 Platypus: without proper training, correct?
2011-03-20 18:51:33 Zorg: and obviously new abilities
2011-03-20 18:51:46 anialator: But abilities comes later on
2011-03-20 18:51:47 Zorg: there may be a new tier of stat upgrade abilities as well
2011-03-20 18:51:53 Jobu: any sort of timeframe on the new abilities?
2011-03-20 18:51:57 Toyic: oops.
2011-03-20 18:51:59 Zorg: well faelust is at 100% just sitting gathering back log now
2011-03-20 18:52:03 Scott: A.S.A.P i think :/
2011-03-20 18:52:05 Zorg: so that has to happen soon
2011-03-20 18:52:06 anialator: And a few others
2011-03-20 18:52:08 Tibos: i have less than 2 months :D
2011-03-20 18:52:10 KevinMp: a few people are :P
2011-03-20 18:52:10 DBall13: as well as a dozen others :P
2011-03-20 18:52:18 Platypus: I'm cloes with Tibos to
2011-03-20 18:52:18 Scott: We're working through random bugs atm
2011-03-20 18:52:22 Guest14814: Wasteland achievements plz - Thanks
2011-03-20 18:52:25 bcfcespley: lol new av tier or new abilities
2011-03-20 18:52:31 Platypus: yeah, what about new achievements?
2011-03-20 18:52:32 grzesiek17: I finished all abilites like few days ago
2011-03-20 18:52:32 grzesiek17: :(
2011-03-20 18:52:35 Pascal: jobu is at 100 too lol
2011-03-20 18:52:53 Scott: You will gain backlog until a new ability is released
2011-03-20 18:52:53 Zorg: So yeah the new tier of avatar items will involve a few new npcs, a few new crystals and will likely at some stage of the process require you to have the previous tier item to replace.
2011-03-20 18:53:05 Zorg: There will also be an upgrade available for the Scythe if all goes as planned
2011-03-20 18:53:11 Platypus: :X
2011-03-20 18:53:12 Jobu: :O
2011-03-20 18:53:13 anialator: Oh boy
2011-03-20 18:53:14 Tibos: sounds exciting :yes:
2011-03-20 18:53:14 Macey: quite a few crystals on the concept art wiki page
2011-03-20 18:53:18 Macey: think bcfc made them?
2011-03-20 18:53:18 KevinMp: Will there be an item STRONGER than the scythe?
2011-03-20 18:53:22 Macey: look pretty awesome
2011-03-20 18:53:24 Platypus: will any of this involve going past lvl 80? or is that just unmentionable?
2011-03-20 18:53:31 anialator: New item to make the Scythe users CRY
2011-03-20 18:53:33 Pascal: and a nice harbringer too
2011-03-20 18:53:34 grzesiek17: If you introduce new hunting NPC's I'd love to get 100% exp from them, not 75% :/
2011-03-20 18:53:35 Tibos: yes, but you need a scythe to craft it, Kevin ;)
2011-03-20 18:53:44 Zorg: yeah basically some new entities, a new level 90 boss that drops some new cool stuff... and all drop some new crystals that will be involved in getting the new items
2011-03-20 18:53:46 KevinMp: -_- ty tibos xD
2011-03-20 18:53:52 007Ben: XD
2011-03-20 18:54:05 bcfcespley: ps it will be expensive
2011-03-20 18:54:14 KevinMp: That's a given...
2011-03-20 18:54:16 anialator: How difficult will this level 90 NPC be for the average level 80 avatar?
2011-03-20 18:54:17 Platypus: looks like I sould buy sub time now before it goes away xD
2011-03-20 18:54:18 Scott: hello 1 mill items for level 100 ? :P
2011-03-20 18:54:18 Zorg: You may need to have a certain set of equipment to even confront the new boss, so new avatars will need to collect the first tier before moving on to the 2nd
2011-03-20 18:54:19 Toyic: Question: you mentioned needing an item to make another item. The trades on the item(say a scythe) will not effect the made item in any way, yes?
2011-03-20 18:54:22 Platypus: since this is a decent price to sell xD
2011-03-20 18:54:23 KevinMp: 200-300 item shouldnt have a 1k upgrade :X
2011-03-20 18:54:26 darp: Boom. Excellent.
2011-03-20 18:54:28 007Ben: so is the scythe going to be upgradable? or a wholenew item?
2011-03-20 18:54:47 Zorg: correct the scythe will be involved in its own special recipe if you have one and wish to upgrade it to a tier 2 scythe
2011-03-20 18:54:48 KevinMp: upgraded ben
2011-03-20 18:54:58 007Ben: gotcha
2011-03-20 18:55:06 KevinMp: :O :O! Pick me!
2011-03-20 18:55:10 anialator: It becomes a laser scythe
2011-03-20 18:55:16 anialator: pew pew
2011-03-20 18:55:20 Zorg: we have a ton of artwork for this, we will likely rework the old spectral item art work in to the new items as well
2011-03-20 18:55:20 Pascal: laser sharks? :o
2011-03-20 18:55:24 Macey: Scythe with a laser dot? xD
2011-03-20 18:55:24 KevinMp: Off Plane --> Item Crafting
2011-03-20 18:55:29 KevinMp: Put it there! Doo eett!
2011-03-20 18:55:30 Toyic: It should become a broken bottle.
2011-03-20 18:55:34 darp: Laser dot lol
2011-03-20 18:55:41 grzesiek17: scythe with a noobtube
2011-03-20 18:55:42 Tibos: Spectral Bottle ;)
2011-03-20 18:55:45 Toyic: Nah. Toothbrush. Blue :O
2011-03-20 18:55:46 anialator: It should be a non broken bottle actually
2011-03-20 18:55:49 Platypus: with all this going on, you also have to think about the people who have gone past lvl 80, since i'm assuming you'll have to to fight the lvl 90 guy?
2011-03-20 18:55:50 Platypus: or no?
2011-03-20 18:55:55 KevinMp: Spectral bottle would be a joke -_- xD
2011-03-20 18:55:57 Zorg: Basically each avatar item will have optional upgrade paths, through item crafting yes
2011-03-20 18:56:07 Zorg: The amulet for example will be upgraded to 1 of 4 new amulets at tier 2
2011-03-20 18:56:10 bcfcespley: you have to get to presteige 10 and you can buy gold camo for it
2011-03-20 18:56:12 KevinMp: I bet your glad to see a use for that now xD
2011-03-20 18:56:17 darp: Would this all include some new av misc items?
2011-03-20 18:56:26 Scott: We lack misc items :(
2011-03-20 18:56:29 darp: Or just upgradeable ammies?
2011-03-20 18:56:32 Zorg: the Scythe may have its own little cool side quest and story to upgrade... and require a special item from the new 90 boss to do so
2011-03-20 18:56:38 darp: Neat.
2011-03-20 18:56:46 Tibos: sounds great :D
2011-03-20 18:56:49 Platypus: on that note agian, if I found it, it would have 3t right?
2011-03-20 18:56:52 007Ben: i like it ::yes::
2011-03-20 18:56:53 Platypus: so I could sell it to a scythe owner?
2011-03-20 18:56:58 anialator: And i'll bet this will be even harder to get than the scythe itself? XD
2011-03-20 18:57:02 DMaster: Shame on those who have recently sold a scythe xD
2011-03-20 18:57:05 KevinMp: Just a note to BoD... any ideas you have submit them now to me or any rep please
2011-03-20 18:57:10 KevinMp: better earlier than later
2011-03-20 18:57:19 Tibos: it should have as many trades as the Scythe has ....
2011-03-20 18:57:22 Platypus: DMaster, the scythe sellers now have the credits to do this, whilke the scythe buyers don't xD
2011-03-20 18:57:37 Tibos: 0t scythe -> 0t upgraded scythe
2011-03-20 18:57:43 grzesiek17: Can you fail at upgrading an item ?
2011-03-20 18:57:50 anialator: U silly grz
2011-03-20 18:57:50 mohith: Tibos, naturally.
2011-03-20 18:57:54 007Ben: that would suck :P
2011-03-20 18:57:55 defosage: oh god no, grz
2011-03-20 18:57:59 Scott: lol
2011-03-20 18:58:02 Lynx: hell no
2011-03-20 18:58:03 defosage: that's tantamount to having item damage
2011-03-20 18:58:06 Risque: 18:57:41 [6Vincent6] 19:54:50 [6Vincent6] Idea for scythe add-ons, a second blade, and a third. almost look like a bent fork.
2011-03-20 18:58:12 Scott: ...
2011-03-20 18:58:20 Scott: Why not attack with a bent fork then
2011-03-20 18:58:25 defosage: {XD}
2011-03-20 18:58:28 007Ben: XD
2011-03-20 18:58:29 KevinMp: NI can have a bent fork?!?
2011-03-20 18:58:30 mohith: O.o
2011-03-20 18:58:31 Risque: Not an actual fork!
2011-03-20 18:58:32 Zorg: Anyway I've got Dk16 on drawing the new 90 boss
2011-03-20 18:58:35 defosage: a bent fork-scythe!
2011-03-20 18:58:37 Tibos: the Bent Fork should do extra amage to Food :P
2011-03-20 18:58:43 Toyic: Did Scott just promise us a new weapon? :o
2011-03-20 18:58:43 KevinMp: haaa! xD
2011-03-20 18:58:46 DMaster: nice
2011-03-20 18:58:51 Food: N00000! >:(
2011-03-20 18:58:53 KevinMp: 10 points tibox xD
2011-03-20 18:58:56 KevinMp: tibos*
2011-03-20 18:59:26 darp: And to pie.
2011-03-20 18:59:46 Zorg: Ok that's everything I need to talk about anyway
2011-03-20 18:59:49 Scott: ok
2011-03-20 18:59:49 KevinMp: i eat my pie with a spoon :X xD
2011-03-20 18:59:50 Zorg: So over to Scott for his stuff
2011-03-20 18:59:54 Scott: mwhaha!
2011-03-20 18:59:56 Scott: Right
2011-03-20 19:00:00 [Random Roll] Scott: 2
2011-03-20 19:00:01 Tibos: if that's done, could we please return a bit to the extra trades for subscription?
2011-03-20 19:00:03 Scott: Ok DF
2011-03-20 19:00:10 Scott: Your agenda please!
2011-03-20 19:00:21 Jobu: hmm
2011-03-20 19:00:31 Jobu: Well all this talk of new things is nice, but how about the fight engine?
2011-03-20 19:00:41 Jobu: Is it going to happen?
2011-03-20 19:00:52 Zorg: yes that's coming to, right now I think the new microtransaction system should be my priority
2011-03-20 19:01:01 Zorg: but the new combat stuff will come along with the new 80 - 90 content
2011-03-20 19:01:19 Zorg: the plan still remains
2011-03-20 19:01:22 Zorg: that once you're on the warfare page
2011-03-20 19:01:30 Zorg: you can fight... move... do everything you can now without reloading the page
2011-03-20 19:01:38 KevinMp: Kevin Likey :)
2011-03-20 19:01:39 anialator: Nice
2011-03-20 19:01:46 Jobu: 19:01:09 [drako] new gang logos?
2011-03-20 19:01:48 Zorg: everything will be dynamic and more... game like
2011-03-20 19:01:49 007Ben: sweet
2011-03-20 19:02:16 DMaster: Do we need new gang logo's though? :/ some of the gang clothing has the current logo's on
2011-03-20 19:02:20 dk16: Why change the logos? I like how they are now.
2011-03-20 19:02:23 anialator: Speed was suppose to show how often you could attack right?
2011-03-20 19:02:28 dk16: Plus they're already on all the clothing.
2011-03-20 19:02:29 Zorg: I like them dk16, I just don't like TCs
2011-03-20 19:02:37 anialator: :O
2011-03-20 19:02:40 anialator: RACIST
2011-03-20 19:02:41 007Ben: :*(
2011-03-20 19:02:45 Zorg: I think the mask on chapters needs fixing
2011-03-20 19:02:48 Jobu: Maybe new versions of the current logos?
2011-03-20 19:02:52 anialator: Its like a skull bro geez
2011-03-20 19:02:53 KevinMp: Maybe people who have them already keep them, and we make new shirts with new logos :O
2011-03-20 19:02:59 Zorg: yeah I know I drew it
2011-03-20 19:03:01 Jobu: just to see something creative or new that doesnt take away from their general look?
2011-03-20 19:03:03 dk16: This just in: Zorg hates TC and has been rigging warfare against them all along.
2011-03-20 19:03:04 KevinMp: so that way, it can stay classic :O
2011-03-20 19:03:05 anialator: :X
2011-03-20 19:03:08 Zorg: doesn't look much like a skull though, would be cooler if it was actually... a skull
2011-03-20 19:03:09 Lynx: Zorg hates ::tc::
2011-03-20 19:03:15 Scott: Problem as I know, the ones submitted were going to be ispiration for new ones.
2011-03-20 19:03:17 darp: It would explain a lot.
2011-03-20 19:03:28 Scott: So they couldve changed loads anyway :P
2011-03-20 19:03:29 Zorg: yeah but I like all the other ones Scott lol
2011-03-20 19:03:36 Scott: oooh ic
2011-03-20 19:03:46 bcfcespley: Zorg has them in HD they look much better
2011-03-20 19:03:46 Zorg: If we just changed TCs to an actual blue skull on a book
2011-03-20 19:03:54 anialator: I'd be cool with that
2011-03-20 19:04:00 Zorg: I haven't redrawn OC or TCs in HD yet
2011-03-20 19:04:00 007Ben: i like it
2011-03-20 19:04:01 anialator: It's a bish to draw
2011-03-20 19:04:05 Zorg: I do have DF and BoD's in HD though
2011-03-20 19:04:09 Scott: HD ?
2011-03-20 19:04:14 KevinMp: high def :O
2011-03-20 19:04:15 Zorg: like 1000 x 1000 pixels
2011-03-20 19:04:17 dk16: Vectored?
2011-03-20 19:04:18 Scott: oh
2011-03-20 19:04:19 bcfcespley: Like BIG
2011-03-20 19:04:19 anialator: OMG I want a large image for The Chapters logo
2011-03-20 19:04:20 Jobu: hot.
2011-03-20 19:04:24 Zorg: eww vectors
2011-03-20 19:04:24 Food: 20:04:08 [greggy] 19:00:59 [Zorg] but the new combat stuff will come along with the new 80 - 90 content 20:04:12 [greggy] So we have to level now?
2011-03-20 19:04:25 anialator: i'll put it on a shirt and make millions!
2011-03-20 19:04:26 DMaster: lol bcfc xD
2011-03-20 19:04:31 Scott: You have issues if your drawing in 1000x1000
2011-03-20 19:04:36 Zorg: No you don't need to level
2011-03-20 19:04:37 Scott: i find it hard with 40x30
2011-03-20 19:04:38 Platypus: and not only lvl, how about the people past lvl 90? :P
2011-03-20 19:04:44 Zorg: The 90 boss will require tier 1 avatar items to defeat
2011-03-20 19:04:48 Lynx: Well i properly have some bad news :( ........ i need to leave sadly
2011-03-20 19:04:50 Zorg: he will not require you to be higher level
2011-03-20 19:04:54 Scott: k, bye.
2011-03-20 19:05:00 Lynx: Cya all
2011-03-20 19:05:01 anialator: Tier 1 being crystal swords and the such?
2011-03-20 19:05:04 Zorg: yes
2011-03-20 19:05:05 KevinMp: Good :) glad to hear that. i didnt want to level up
2011-03-20 19:05:08 anialator: Cya nub cake
2011-03-20 19:05:16 Scott: Wait...
2011-03-20 19:05:16 anialator: Punch your parents in the face for me {3
2011-03-20 19:05:18 Jobu: In reference to leveling past 80, will there ever be a gain of any kind outside of clothing?
2011-03-20 19:05:19 Zorg: Leveling will remain optional, all future progress for avatars will be in the form of item upgrades
2011-03-20 19:05:51 Scott: Any other questions from DF ? :P
2011-03-20 19:05:52 grzesiek17: What about some new WF items ? I remember bcf posting some in the forums
2011-03-20 19:05:56 Zorg: nope we have no plans to give any benefit to leveling beyond 80
2011-03-20 19:06:02 Platypus: if so, every gang has a few members that are leveling at a decent speed, zorg would even add something only lvl 85+ could find in an upgrade, that could be sellable
2011-03-20 19:06:04 grzesiek17: As we only have 2 right noe
2011-03-20 19:06:06 grzesiek17: now*
2011-03-20 19:06:11 Platypus: since again, every gang has people who have been leveling a little biut
2011-03-20 19:06:15 anialator: That comes later
2011-03-20 19:06:21 Pascal: grzesiek17 concept art on wiki has some :P
2011-03-20 19:06:27 Zorg: yes but I don't want players to feel like they need to level past 80
2011-03-20 19:06:54 darp: Agreed... things should move laterally upon L80.
2011-03-20 19:06:55 anialator: Everything added has to be accessible for level 80
2011-03-20 19:07:06 Jobu: Will there be any other WL items released, like different pills, meds, etc?
2011-03-20 19:07:06 Tibos: rogues agree
2011-03-20 19:07:13 Zorg: yes from level 80 you may have to train abilities... you may have to work through tiers of items to defeat new things
2011-03-20 19:07:15 Zorg: and get new loot
2011-03-20 19:07:22 Zorg: but your leveling days are optionally over
2011-03-20 19:07:46 anialator: Warfare Weapons is a topic in itself
2011-03-20 19:07:54 Jobu: i didnt say weapons
2011-03-20 19:08:02 anialator: Well items in general
2011-03-20 19:08:07 anialator: Bcf did some stuff on that
2011-03-20 19:08:12 Scott: I know greggy had a good idea in main about focus pills
2011-03-20 19:08:20 Zorg: Ideally I plan to simplify the item system as well
2011-03-20 19:08:22 Scott: I forgot what he said tho somethign about a lab
2011-03-20 19:08:25 Platypus: back to clothing for 1 sec, so since lvl 90 and 100 have their own clothing for theselves, will lvl 90 and 100 clothing also be sold in this new type of market being addeD?
2011-03-20 19:08:32 Zorg: that may involve removing reputation rewards and hive run shops that sell white items
2011-03-20 19:08:37 Scott: Yes Platy
2011-03-20 19:08:41 Platypus: awesome
2011-03-20 19:08:54 Zorg: that will be up to the artists drawing it
2011-03-20 19:08:59 Scott: Alright Jobu, anything else? :)
2011-03-20 19:09:03 Zorg: Level requirement will always be based on how cool we think it looks
2011-03-20 19:09:07 KevinMp: so what motivation will there be for artists to draw it if theres only 2 level 90 players? :X
2011-03-20 19:09:16 Tibos: their cash XD
2011-03-20 19:09:18 Jobu: Well then my last question is about maps. We have a new one coming, are more planned? Will player made maps still be something to deal with?
2011-03-20 19:09:21 anialator: They just have to make sure it is not too awesome
2011-03-20 19:09:23 bcfcespley: money? lol
2011-03-20 19:09:41 Zorg: We don't plan to go past 5 maps, however we may rework or redesign the other 4 at some point
2011-03-20 19:09:48 KevinMp: if i was an artist, i would want the larger group over 2 people :X
2011-03-20 19:09:51 Scott: I hate the sand one
2011-03-20 19:10:02 Platypus: you also have to think
2011-03-20 19:10:02 Tibos: seconded, Scott
2011-03-20 19:10:09 anialator: Sand one isn't so good.
2011-03-20 19:10:13 Jobu: 4 isn't enough to get tired of, 5 will only hold us over so long. more are needed. bottom line.
2011-03-20 19:10:16 DBall13: 3rds
2011-03-20 19:10:16 Platypus: will you get 15SUB for 1 item of lvl 50, or 40SUB of 1 item lvl 90
2011-03-20 19:10:18 Risque: And referencing these wl changes, will guard levels change too?
2011-03-20 19:10:22 Platypus: since older players usually can pay more
2011-03-20 19:10:30 Zorg: the sand one was just me getting tired of people complaing about starting positions or one gang getting in to a better position
2011-03-20 19:10:41 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:10:52 anialator: "Waaaahhh they gotted a bettah pawzishon"
2011-03-20 19:10:52 Tibos: i have a suggestion about that, but i'll wait for my turn :P
2011-03-20 19:10:59 Zorg: the way guards work is set to be changed in the new combat system yes
2011-03-20 19:11:05 Scott: Thats literally what our ticket system is ani
2011-03-20 19:11:10 anialator: Lmfao
2011-03-20 19:11:13 Zorg: the wandering npcs of the next map will be experimental plans for how new guards will work
2011-03-20 19:11:22 grzesiek17: That's actually a good question, how guards stats will change when avatars get their 2nd tier items
2011-03-20 19:11:23 anialator: Hot
2011-03-20 19:11:23 Risque: Nice :)
2011-03-20 19:11:35 007Ben: what if you could change the stats for your gang's guards?
2011-03-20 19:11:39 bcfcespley: zorg i think you should make the 5th map a jungle and make the roaming npc predator!! XD
2011-03-20 19:11:40 Scott: Wont be saying that when a df level 80 guars murders you :P
2011-03-20 19:11:41 Jobu: Guards should have random equip setups to be well, more random to fight.
2011-03-20 19:11:47 anialator: hahaha
2011-03-20 19:11:48 KevinMp: bcf -_-
2011-03-20 19:11:51 defosage: bcfc XD
2011-03-20 19:11:53 Scott: oooo i agree with bcfc o.o
2011-03-20 19:11:54 KevinMp: im not arnold... gtfo xD
2011-03-20 19:11:59 Zorg: the plan is to have guards that with AI patrol in packs around their territory... with harder boss like npcs patrolling closer to the HQs and cloaked / stealth guards patrolling enemy territory
2011-03-20 19:12:10 Zorg: both to combat afking and to make the entire experience more interesting
2011-03-20 19:12:21 Zorg: All guards will attack you without you attacking them
2011-03-20 19:12:22 Platypus: would you gain EXP from these guards?
2011-03-20 19:12:23 Platypus: or no?
2011-03-20 19:12:24 anialator: Thats pretty cool
2011-03-20 19:12:30 Platypus: since you can't exactly "farm" them
2011-03-20 19:12:48 Zorg: The boss guards near enemy HQs will take a team of people to defeat and once defeated will stay defeated for a set period of time...
2011-03-20 19:12:48 anialator: As these guards are more proactive I assume there will be a few less of them?
2011-03-20 19:12:55 Zorg: and will need to be defeated in order to attack enemy HQs
2011-03-20 19:12:57 anialator: Will make barracks more impressive
2011-03-20 19:13:13 mohith: You should not get exp from guards, imo. WF points is all you should get.
2011-03-20 19:13:23 anialator: Second Mohith
2011-03-20 19:13:25 Zorg: the entire warfare system will require more... activity
2011-03-20 19:13:31 Zorg: you will not automatically attack those that attack you
2011-03-20 19:13:36 Zorg: if you want to fight back... you will have to fight back
2011-03-20 19:13:42 KevinMp: Good :D
2011-03-20 19:13:52 Platypus: so if you go to the bathroom while on a square, youe **** outta luck basically? xD
2011-03-20 19:13:57 Scott: Yup
2011-03-20 19:14:00 grzesiek17: Does that mean we will be able to kill afkers without losing health at all ? :O
2011-03-20 19:14:00 KevinMp: i cant wait to see level 10 newbie kill me when i look away for a second xD
2011-03-20 19:14:06 Zorg: correct
2011-03-20 19:14:09 Scott: lol
2011-03-20 19:14:11 grzesiek17: That's great
2011-03-20 19:14:13 KevinMp: Woot! xD
2011-03-20 19:14:18 007Ben: i dont like that :P kevin has a point
2011-03-20 19:14:19 Tibos: i disagree, with the posibility to farm guards out of the way, maybe you should be able to get XP from WL rather than PVP
2011-03-20 19:14:21 Scott: you slip and fall on platypus' scythe
2011-03-20 19:14:22 Zorg: If KevinMp is attacking Scott...
2011-03-20 19:14:25 Zorg: and I attack KevinMp...
2011-03-20 19:14:30 Zorg: I could kill him without him hitting me at all
2011-03-20 19:14:31 Platypus: I sold my scythe Scott :?
2011-03-20 19:14:34 Platypus: :?
2011-03-20 19:14:35 KevinMp: Ow...
2011-03-20 19:14:35 Platypus: :/
2011-03-20 19:14:37 defosage: more av killing for lowbies :Z
2011-03-20 19:14:38 Platypus: :X
2011-03-20 19:14:38 Platypus: oop
2011-03-20 19:14:43 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:14:47 Platypus: I GOT IT
2011-03-20 19:14:50 Platypus: so you can't fight 2 at once
2011-03-20 19:14:51 Scott: Jobu any more or can I move on? :)
2011-03-20 19:14:52 KevinMp: zorg is a hacker with his phantom cheatgear... ill just run away D:
2011-03-20 19:14:53 Platypus: like real XD
2011-03-20 19:14:58 Zorg: So yes if you come across an AFK avatar at level 10 you could sit there and slowly wear them down :D
2011-03-20 19:15:04 Jobu: if these floating NPCs are a success, is there a chance of more stuff like this being added to maps to offer more for everyone to do? Or possibly a single player map of quests?
2011-03-20 19:15:12 anialator: Attacks are dome automatically right?
2011-03-20 19:15:16 DMaster: That's a great idea. More realistic :D
2011-03-20 19:15:18 Toyic: Zorg, if you are fighting someone, and someone else attacks you, can you attack two at once?
2011-03-20 19:15:19 anialator: You dont click attack repeatedly
2011-03-20 19:15:19 Gavrebel: You can't defend against anyone attacking you that you aren't fighting... well makes logical sense at least
2011-03-20 19:15:22 Food: 20:14:34 [greggy] How will building buildings work then 20:14:40 [greggy] If someone can just /cloak and farm the whole square 20:14:43 [greggy] without risk of dying
2011-03-20 19:15:24 Zorg: I don't like quests but all maps will likely have some sort of dynamic NPCs added
2011-03-20 19:15:28 Scott: one at once jesus christ
2011-03-20 19:15:38 007Ben: no toyic
2011-03-20 19:15:45 mohith: Df is asking questions, we'll get to the rest of you after Df.
2011-03-20 19:16:02 Jobu: Zorg: but how about a single player map you need to fight through to get something or do something on?
2011-03-20 19:16:02 Tibos: Greggy, maybe you shouldn't afk even on buildings ...
2011-03-20 19:16:13 anialator: No
2011-03-20 19:16:16 Jobu: better than just paying and fighting NPCs
2011-03-20 19:16:23 Zorg: That is what I was thinking of turning Map 5 in to the next time it comes up
2011-03-20 19:16:32 grzesiek17: @Jobu like dungeons or instances ?
2011-03-20 19:16:35 Zorg: Or more... giving the NPCs a color and their own control of squares
2011-03-20 19:16:37 Jobu: sort of
2011-03-20 19:16:42 Zorg: and pitting the gangs against them
2011-03-20 19:16:45 Platypus: that'd be cool
2011-03-20 19:16:48 Zorg: depends how well all the AI stuff works
2011-03-20 19:16:50 Toyic: Sounds awesome.
2011-03-20 19:16:50 Jobu: that sounds interesting
2011-03-20 19:16:55 KevinMp: are u suggesting a cooperative map? :O
2011-03-20 19:16:56 Zorg: we can't do that until the new combat system is in place though
2011-03-20 19:16:57 Scott: Alright, DF done? XD
2011-03-20 19:16:59 dk16: Make them purple!
2011-03-20 19:17:01 anialator: Does speed affect attack speed yes or no GOD
2011-03-20 19:17:04 dk16: The purple army must rise!
2011-03-20 19:17:15 Pascal: scrin? :o
2011-03-20 19:17:19 grzesiek17: I can't think of anything else at the moment
2011-03-20 19:17:23 Zorg: There will be a little bar that goes up and down which determines how fast you attack and yes it will be controlled by attack speed
2011-03-20 19:17:31 anialator: Right.
2011-03-20 19:17:36 Jobu: Done.
2011-03-20 19:17:38 DBall13: ::yes::
2011-03-20 19:17:43 Scott: Good questions :)
2011-03-20 19:17:48 Scott: Alright ... TC
2011-03-20 19:17:55 Zorg: so faster attack speed characters will be able to get 2-3 attacks in on a character with base attack speed in warfare
2011-03-20 19:18:08 Toyic: First: Spectrals!
2011-03-20 19:18:10 Zorg: making it more... important a stat
2011-03-20 19:18:17 Scott: great
2011-03-20 19:18:18 Scott: xD
2011-03-20 19:18:19 Toyic: Last legcon, we were told they would come back for holidays.
2011-03-20 19:18:22 anialator: Yeah
2011-03-20 19:18:25 Scott: I can answer this!
2011-03-20 19:18:25 Toyic: In order for others to get banners, etc.
2011-03-20 19:18:25 Platypus: Zorg, C-Swords have more speed then Scythes and C-blades
2011-03-20 19:18:31 Toyic: Which holidays?
2011-03-20 19:18:33 Platypus: will that mean C-Swords will be some what more usefull?
2011-03-20 19:18:33 Zorg: but one of the tier 2 amulets will be high in speed :)
2011-03-20 19:18:34 007Ben: and after several holidays, they never appeared
2011-03-20 19:18:40 Platypus: since we will have more speed points?
2011-03-20 19:18:41 Scott: Alright last LegCon yes it was decided to remove them
2011-03-20 19:18:46 Platypus: or be able to put more points into dodge/accuracy?
2011-03-20 19:18:55 Tibos: platypus, i'm sure the stats will be rebalanced with the new system
2011-03-20 19:18:58 Zorg: I don't know, players really didn't like Spectral items
2011-03-20 19:19:05 Zorg: they were amusing for like... a week?
2011-03-20 19:19:13 Scott: but we didnt feel cofortable adding them to holidays and felt they needed their own holiday :P
2011-03-20 19:19:14 Platypus: I only wanted them for the banner
2011-03-20 19:19:15 Toyic: Which is why you decided to only put them in during hilidays.
2011-03-20 19:19:16 anialator: Because everyone got them in a week
2011-03-20 19:19:17 Platypus: then I didn't even fight for them
2011-03-20 19:19:18 Platypus: again
2011-03-20 19:19:19 KevinMp: So when the new system is released, are we granted a free stat change? <3
2011-03-20 19:19:19 Scott: just needs to be decided when :/
2011-03-20 19:19:32 Toyic: Ah, sounds good then. Spectral day!
2011-03-20 19:19:43 Zorg: what we could do is find a period of the calendar that is really empty
2011-03-20 19:19:45 007Ben: how often would this day occur?
2011-03-20 19:19:47 Zorg: and make a new legacy holiday to go there
2011-03-20 19:19:51 Scott: yeah
2011-03-20 19:19:55 DBall13: all 3 spectrals on 1 day? :O
2011-03-20 19:19:56 dk16: Will there be cake?
2011-03-20 19:19:58 Zorg: that would mean we couldn't use them for tier 2 graphics though :(
2011-03-20 19:19:59 anialator: Like woah
2011-03-20 19:19:59 Platypus: June XD
2011-03-20 19:20:00 Platypus: would July
2011-03-20 19:20:02 Platypus: would be best XD
2011-03-20 19:20:03 Toyic: The cake is a lie.
2011-03-20 19:20:05 Scott: dk flour is expensive thesedays
2011-03-20 19:20:07 Jobu: DBall: now that sounds interesting
2011-03-20 19:20:09 Scott: Mud Pies
2011-03-20 19:20:10 Zorg: all 3 at once is not technically viable lol
2011-03-20 19:20:12 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:20:15 Scott: all 3...
2011-03-20 19:20:22 Scott: Sorry you can deal with the tickets i will get
2011-03-20 19:20:25 anialator: Oh god
2011-03-20 19:20:26 Zorg: would probably just be a week of cycling spectrals
2011-03-20 19:20:27 Toyic: Well, could we have three weeks of the holiday
2011-03-20 19:20:29 Tibos: Zorg, maybe keep using them till the new items are up and running
2011-03-20 19:20:33 Tibos: i'm sure it'll be a while
2011-03-20 19:20:34 Toyic: And each one on a different week?
2011-03-20 19:20:39 Zorg: really... 3 whole weeks of spectral items? :/
2011-03-20 19:20:45 DBall13: too much
2011-03-20 19:20:46 anialator: Thats how it was and people were like waaahhh
2011-03-20 19:20:49 Toyic: I don't know how to divide 3 by 7 evenly
2011-03-20 19:20:53 Scott: Unless we bring them back once a month :/
2011-03-20 19:20:54 007Ben: what if 1 day a month was a different item?
2011-03-20 19:20:54 anialator: 1 week of all 3 changing tops
2011-03-20 19:20:58 Toyic: I'm having conniptions. lol
2011-03-20 19:21:03 anialator: I like 1 day a month
2011-03-20 19:21:09 Zorg: we could do like 9 days then
2011-03-20 19:21:12 Jobu: 1 day a month is fine
2011-03-20 19:21:14 Zorg: one each day going round
2011-03-20 19:21:14 Toyic: 9 days sounds good.
2011-03-20 19:21:17 Scott: 1 day O_o
2011-03-20 19:21:22 Scott: I was thinking weekend tbh
2011-03-20 19:21:22 anialator: Yes
2011-03-20 19:21:23 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:21:30 anialator: so people will actually be like OMG SPECTRALS
2011-03-20 19:21:31 Zorg: one day a month sucks lets make it a Legacy holiday
2011-03-20 19:21:32 Platypus: this will be a quick one, I remember scott saying something about a new title being given to lvl 90's and 100's
2011-03-20 19:21:33 Tibos: i know, how about a weeken per week?
2011-03-20 19:21:34 Zorg: for 9 days
2011-03-20 19:21:38 Platypus: will that coincide with anything ebing added?
2011-03-20 19:21:40 Toyic: That'll give everyone ample time to earn the banners, once per year.
2011-03-20 19:21:42 Platypus: like, with the new syste,?
2011-03-20 19:21:48 Scott: Titles are being finalised
2011-03-20 19:21:50 anialator: Fair enough 9 days a month works
2011-03-20 19:21:51 Scott: My bad on that
2011-03-20 19:21:56 Toyic: No, no, no, Ani.
2011-03-20 19:21:56 anialator: |I mean a year durr
2011-03-20 19:21:59 Toyic: yeah. lol
2011-03-20 19:21:59 Zorg: yeah DMaster can sort out the spectral holiday
2011-03-20 19:22:07 Zorg: we'll get some graphics and stuff for it as well
2011-03-20 19:22:16 Zorg: maybe have Joe sell cardboard cut out spectral items :D
2011-03-20 19:22:16 anialator: 23:22:05 [Lilo] i demand an explanation of why Chambers of Fire Item Crafting is in off plane.
2011-03-20 19:22:19 anialator: Go on then.
2011-03-20 19:22:20 Tibos: 9 days a month is almost as much as there were before .....
2011-03-20 19:22:23 007Ben: XD
2011-03-20 19:22:25 Scott: Joe needs to be shot
2011-03-20 19:22:25 DMaster: lol yeah i can do that
2011-03-20 19:22:27 Scott: I dont like him
2011-03-20 19:22:28 007Ben: lilo ::yes::
2011-03-20 19:22:31 Zorg: 9 days a year Tibos
2011-03-20 19:22:33 Toyic: I love joe!
2011-03-20 19:22:35 DBall13: i think its 9 days a yr tib
2011-03-20 19:22:37 Tibos: yes, i read, thank you
2011-03-20 19:22:51 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:22:52 Zorg: an explanation of why item crafting is avatar only?
2011-03-20 19:23:02 Scott: say what o.o
2011-03-20 19:23:07 anialator: I guess yeah
2011-03-20 19:23:07 Toyic: I'm confused.
2011-03-20 19:23:13 anialator: I was a little confused too
2011-03-20 19:23:14 Scott: ...
2011-03-20 19:23:16 Zorg: because... tier 2 items are avatar only :D
2011-03-20 19:23:18 Zorg: next
2011-03-20 19:23:20 Scott: lol
2011-03-20 19:23:22 Tibos: XD
2011-03-20 19:23:23 Scott: next tc point
2011-03-20 19:23:25 Scott: plox
2011-03-20 19:23:25 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:23:28 007Ben: we want wl items back
2011-03-20 19:23:31 Scott: ....
2011-03-20 19:23:33 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:23:39 Scott: /me goes to deskslam
2011-03-20 19:23:46 Zorg: WL items sucked :/
2011-03-20 19:23:50 Toyic: ::yes::
2011-03-20 19:23:52 Zorg: you can get them as hunting drops go hunt
2011-03-20 19:23:52 anialator: Thats just awesome
2011-03-20 19:23:53 mohith: With spectrals going to be live will players get only a fraction of the wf pts usually? Since we now have expo removal?
2011-03-20 19:23:57 Scott: They're in hunting now -_-
2011-03-20 19:24:02 Scott: you guys loved that idea
2011-03-20 19:24:04 anialator: New warfare weapons
2011-03-20 19:24:09 Platypus: not weapons
2011-03-20 19:24:11 Platypus: just new WF items
2011-03-20 19:24:12 mohith: If you have the spectral that is, because expo removal and spectral?
2011-03-20 19:24:13 anialator: Increasing in price each time you buy them
2011-03-20 19:24:15 Zorg: that would defeat the point of removing them >:(
2011-03-20 19:24:24 Platypus: they would be flooded within a week
2011-03-20 19:24:29 Platypus: with some peoples back log of WF points
2011-03-20 19:24:30 Zorg: there are too many shops it is too confusing for new players
2011-03-20 19:24:33 Scott: Market would be damaged :/
2011-03-20 19:24:35 Zorg: we are trying to simplify the item system
2011-03-20 19:24:43 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:24:44 Zorg: i.e you get items from hunting...
2011-03-20 19:24:56 Toyic: It's only 9 days a year, though. It's not going to completely unbalance anything.
2011-03-20 19:25:04 007Ben: but not wfp are pretty muvh useless :/
2011-03-20 19:25:04 Scott: ...
2011-03-20 19:25:13 anialator: What?
2011-03-20 19:25:18 Scott: 9 days is a long time
2011-03-20 19:25:20 anialator: Toyic we're talki9ng about wf items
2011-03-20 19:25:22 Zorg: no they aren't you use them to buy blue pills
2011-03-20 19:25:27 Toyic: I was addressing platypus.
2011-03-20 19:25:30 Pascal: So you want more stuff to spend on?..
2011-03-20 19:25:35 anialator: Yes.
2011-03-20 19:25:38 007Ben: exactly
2011-03-20 19:25:48 Zorg: that is fine... you're just not spending them on armor, weapons or misc items anymore
2011-03-20 19:25:55 Food: WL achievements will drain WF points. <3
2011-03-20 19:26:05 Platypus: I think the best idea would be more items to the WL hospital, more items to the WL shop, like new pills, new usable items not weapons
2011-03-20 19:26:07 Scott: Are you talking to Ross, Food?
2011-03-20 19:26:08 Platypus: and maybe new items to the WF shop
2011-03-20 19:26:16 Food: No :O
2011-03-20 19:26:51 Scott: Yeah Zorg, Ross would like to know when WL achievements are coming
2011-03-20 19:27:01 Zorg: isn't he the one making them? :/
2011-03-20 19:27:07 Food: Hey scott, that was my question for OC's turn >:(
2011-03-20 19:27:08 Scott: He made them apparently
2011-03-20 19:27:11 Scott: and sent them you
2011-03-20 19:27:15 Scott: re-send?
2011-03-20 19:27:21 Zorg: I think a lot of them will be messed up by the new warfare system though
2011-03-20 19:27:22 bcfcespley: theyre not 100% complete
2011-03-20 19:27:24 anialator: 23:26:32 [blade99] Whats the point of wling for blue pills so you can wl more for more blue pills
2011-03-20 19:27:29 bcfcespley: plus new wf is on its way?
2011-03-20 19:27:33 Zorg: so probably best wait until after the new combat system / guards / etc
2011-03-20 19:27:36 Scott: kk
2011-03-20 19:27:42 Scott: someone go tell Ross
2011-03-20 19:27:48 Scott: oh he;s here
2011-03-20 19:27:51 Scott: /me waves at Guest
2011-03-20 19:28:05 007Ben: blade99 hit the nail on the head
2011-03-20 19:28:10 Scott: Kind if sad I know Ross' ip off by heart
2011-03-20 19:28:14 Scott: anyway
2011-03-20 19:28:22 Scott: next tc point
2011-03-20 19:28:24 anialator: 23:25:37 [blade99] We need a reason to go into the wl
2011-03-20 19:28:29 Scott: ...
2011-03-20 19:28:33 Zorg: go in the WL to help your gang!
2011-03-20 19:28:35 Scott: You're kidding right
2011-03-20 19:28:37 DBall13: haha
2011-03-20 19:28:38 Pascal: those blue pills are draining already? :/
2011-03-20 19:28:41 Food: Can we please move on to another gang
2011-03-20 19:28:43 anialator: Our other point was.... Abilities I think?
2011-03-20 19:28:49 007Ben: yes
2011-03-20 19:28:49 anialator: ugggggghhhhhhh
2011-03-20 19:28:51 Scott: abilities have been answered
2011-03-20 19:28:54 anialator: Yeah make more
2011-03-20 19:28:56 Scott: We will add more asap
2011-03-20 19:28:59 Food: I dont mean to be rude, but my god
2011-03-20 19:29:01 Scott: backlog is active
2011-03-20 19:29:01 anialator: Cool, next gang
2011-03-20 19:29:10 DBall13: active since xmas 8)
2011-03-20 19:29:10 Scott: ok Food
2011-03-20 19:29:13 Zorg: I'm sorry but with the WL items... you went in the WL... to get points... to get the items.. to sell the items for credits... to use those credits reviving so you could spend more time in the WL
2011-03-20 19:29:14 007Ben: thats it from us XD
2011-03-20 19:29:16 Zorg: we just simplified the system
2011-03-20 19:29:29 anialator: Well more consumables in the wl would be good
2011-03-20 19:29:38 anialator: But I guess thats what the focus shot is all about
2011-03-20 19:29:38 Platypus: ani's right
2011-03-20 19:29:40 Tibos: actually, you went in WL to get points to get items, to give to newbies so they like the game and come in WL and kick ass
2011-03-20 19:29:40 007Ben: focus pills, for example
2011-03-20 19:29:59 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:29:59 anialator: One shot of this secret formula will have your focus back on track. (would come with a 'cool down' icon once used: So it can only be used once every 15 minutes, so its not abusable)
2011-03-20 19:30:00 Zorg: You don't help newbies Tibos. :o
2011-03-20 19:30:21 Zorg: yes fatigue reducing and focus increasing pills have been suggested already
2011-03-20 19:30:21 Scott: ok
2011-03-20 19:30:24 DBall13: what about a pill that increases stats 5% for 3 mins?
2011-03-20 19:30:25 Scott: OC - go
2011-03-20 19:30:28 Scott: Food
2011-03-20 19:30:30 Zorg: I'm fine with that sort of thing
2011-03-20 19:30:34 Risque: Defosage goes first
2011-03-20 19:30:45 defosage: Adding a confirmation button to contest council members
2011-03-20 19:30:46 anialator: Refer to BCF for details on consumable warfare items
2011-03-20 19:30:50 Food: My question was about the WL Achievements which has been adressed.
2011-03-20 19:31:01 anialator: It was?
2011-03-20 19:31:05 Scott: You guys and your misclicks
2011-03-20 19:31:16 Scott: If i did that id wipe half of legacy out :(
2011-03-20 19:31:27 inFamous: @ Dball, Why not have a pill for increasing stats, but it only increases one at a time? like defense, acc, dodge, etc;
2011-03-20 19:31:29 anialator: XD
2011-03-20 19:31:32 Platypus: Scott, hopefully the bad half ;)
2011-03-20 19:31:35 Scott: Zorg can we have a confirm screen on gangs that can contest? :P
2011-03-20 19:31:48 Zorg: ...really? o.O
2011-03-20 19:31:48 Platypus: inFamous because that would imbalance the game
2011-03-20 19:31:49 anialator: Hells yes
2011-03-20 19:31:52 Risque: Yes
2011-03-20 19:31:53 Platypus: since whats stopping me from buying 100 of em
2011-03-20 19:31:56 Platypus: and being unbeatable?
2011-03-20 19:31:57 Scott: Yes - they have a large ammount of misclicks
2011-03-20 19:32:01 Toyic: Ye splease.
2011-03-20 19:32:02 Pascal: a lot of people do a whoops
2011-03-20 19:32:04 anialator: Non stackable Palty
2011-03-20 19:32:10 Risque: There are accidental contests
2011-03-20 19:32:15 inFamous: Well have a time limit on how often you can use them
2011-03-20 19:32:19 Zorg: You guys suck at clicking stuff.
2011-03-20 19:32:19 Jobu: misclicks?
2011-03-20 19:32:20 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:32:21 Food: I've been contested 7 times now I think by accident. XD
2011-03-20 19:32:26 defosage: XD
2011-03-20 19:32:26 Neltharion: ertain people have accidentally gotten onto council
2011-03-20 19:32:27 anialator: Actually thats a lie there are no misclicks
2011-03-20 19:32:30 Tibos: by "accident"
2011-03-20 19:32:32 KevinMp: yeah food.... an accident... xD
2011-03-20 19:32:33 Neltharion: *Certain
2011-03-20 19:32:36 Zorg: accidentally got on the council lol
2011-03-20 19:32:37 anialator: Just people who realise their stupidity when they have contested someone awesome
2011-03-20 19:32:38 mohith: Accident. :X
2011-03-20 19:32:40 Scott: We need a cain for every gang :P
2011-03-20 19:32:44 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:32:55 Scott: Or cain should become schizophrenic
2011-03-20 19:32:55 Jobu: 1 Cain is enough
2011-03-20 19:32:55 Zorg: Cain has been known to misclick things *cough*
2011-03-20 19:33:00 Neltharion: Deity wars?
2011-03-20 19:33:02 Jobu: XD
2011-03-20 19:33:03 Pascal: :x
2011-03-20 19:33:08 KevinMp: hehe xD
2011-03-20 19:33:11 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:33:14 Macey: O_O
2011-03-20 19:33:14 Scott: Oc next point
2011-03-20 19:33:15 Zorg: Cain once accidentally posted in the TC forums
2011-03-20 19:33:20 Zorg: ANYWAY
2011-03-20 19:33:21 anialator: Oh god
2011-03-20 19:33:21 Tibos: XD
2011-03-20 19:33:22 Food: So can we please have a confirmation screen for this?<3
2011-03-20 19:33:26 007Ben: lmao
2011-03-20 19:33:29 Scott: Zorgs adding one yes
2011-03-20 19:33:30 Zorg: yes I'll add a confirmation screen lol
2011-03-20 19:33:33 Toyic: How'd that turn out? xD
2011-03-20 19:33:35 Zorg: what? screw you scott
2011-03-20 19:33:38 Scott: :o
2011-03-20 19:33:41 Risque: Thanks :)
2011-03-20 19:33:44 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:33:46 Scott: Im building on your todo list
2011-03-20 19:33:50 darp: Are you sure you want to contest darp?!?!
2011-03-20 19:33:51 Scott: you aint getting holidays this year
2011-03-20 19:33:52 darp: Perfect.
2011-03-20 19:33:53 Risque: 6Vincent6 had a suggestion for a new wl objective
2011-03-20 19:33:56 anialator: hahaha
2011-03-20 19:33:56 Jobu: have Scott do it
2011-03-20 19:34:01 Zorg: I'm going to add a "Delete Account" button that randomly circles the contest button
2011-03-20 19:34:05 Scott: XD
2011-03-20 19:34:07 Risque: :O
2011-03-20 19:34:07 defosage: XD
2011-03-20 19:34:09 darp: HAHAAHHAA
2011-03-20 19:34:10 Toyic: Hahaha
2011-03-20 19:34:10 inFamous: XD
2011-03-20 19:34:10 Pascal: XD
2011-03-20 19:34:10 Jobu: hahah
2011-03-20 19:34:14 007Ben: XD
2011-03-20 19:34:15 Scott: Should do that to RC failed logins
2011-03-20 19:34:16 inFamous: ohmy
2011-03-20 19:34:21 darp: Better be sure! lol
2011-03-20 19:34:22 Zorg: new wl objective?
2011-03-20 19:34:25 mohith: Scott {XD}
2011-03-20 19:34:27 Scott: Zorg deleted as fail happens
2011-03-20 19:34:33 dk16: You do that and I'm quitting staff anyway.
2011-03-20 19:34:41 Scott: WHAT
2011-03-20 19:34:43 Risque: Yes. Something that may run on EMP and causes a massive event
2011-03-20 19:34:57 Scott: You have to hand your resignation in 7 years early you know that right? :P
2011-03-20 19:35:04 Zorg: that's very unspecific
2011-03-20 19:35:14 Risque: 19:01:06 [6Vincent6] Some sort of objective that quakes the earth, causing the other objectives to malfuntion for an hour.
2011-03-20 19:35:18 Risque: Be patient :P
2011-03-20 19:35:21 Pascal: crashes legacy servers?
2011-03-20 19:35:25 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:35:30 anialator: Bwahahahaha
2011-03-20 19:35:31 Zorg: An anti-objective objective?
2011-03-20 19:35:31 Risque: Could destroy buildings too
2011-03-20 19:35:37 anialator: Good god no
2011-03-20 19:35:40 dk16: It's called "Nippon Got Tired"
2011-03-20 19:35:44 Scott: Tsunami by any chance? :P
2011-03-20 19:35:45 Toyic: No to the buildings.
2011-03-20 19:35:49 KevinMp: nippon <3 xD
2011-03-20 19:36:00 Risque: It'd be something very random
2011-03-20 19:36:11 Scott: Tsunami is random...
2011-03-20 19:36:17 Zorg: Tell 6vincent6 to post it in my thread when he has a more clear idea :P
2011-03-20 19:36:20 anialator: A tsunami controlled by a dam
2011-03-20 19:36:22 Risque: Ok
2011-03-20 19:36:28 darp: For future reference a tweek to the Jammer not blinding the controlling gang or halting their building progress.
2011-03-20 19:36:28 anialator: That gets opened by an objective and floods things
2011-03-20 19:36:35 mohith: More details the better Vince. ;)
2011-03-20 19:36:36 DBall13: it maxes expo for all opposing gangs
2011-03-20 19:36:44 DBall13: hows that for an objective :P
2011-03-20 19:36:52 Zorg: for technical reasons it has to jam the controlling gang as well lol
2011-03-20 19:36:53 KevinMp: Haha! in yo face! xD
2011-03-20 19:36:54 anialator: Thats pretty bad Dball
2011-03-20 19:36:57 darp: Balls. XD
2011-03-20 19:36:59 KevinMp: Awww :( xD
2011-03-20 19:37:00 Scott: I swear you guys are impatient
2011-03-20 19:37:10 Scott: OC
2011-03-20 19:37:13 Scott: any more topics? :P
2011-03-20 19:37:13 Zorg: an objective that takes 10 seconds to charge up then kills everyone still in the wasteland :D
2011-03-20 19:37:16 anialator: It's all the caffiene
2011-03-20 19:37:16 Risque: yes
2011-03-20 19:37:19 defosage: Administrative clan spots. I know it's "DtD", but it would be helpful
2011-03-20 19:37:27 Scott: Ad ma what what
2011-03-20 19:37:28 Zorg: clarify...
2011-03-20 19:37:35 anialator: Eborate
2011-03-20 19:37:40 Toyic: Confused again.
2011-03-20 19:37:42 mohith: *Lighting Storm terrorizes the Wasteland injuring everyone*
2011-03-20 19:37:43 KevinMp: Yes Defo! i've had to give up 2 clans recently :(
2011-03-20 19:37:46 Risque: There are currently only 4
2011-03-20 19:37:47 defosage: for example, I'm a guide, and a wiki sysop. If I want to be an OC mentor, that's two more clans
2011-03-20 19:37:53 Scott: Oh
2011-03-20 19:37:55 darp: We had an ask for expanding number of clans. But for the administrative, leadership puts 2 or 3 as offical clans? Exempt from the 4 limit?
2011-03-20 19:37:55 defosage: and they're all game-related
2011-03-20 19:38:00 Scott: You want more clan spots for working for Legacy
2011-03-20 19:38:04 defosage: yes
2011-03-20 19:38:07 Risque: Yes
2011-03-20 19:38:07 KevinMp: yes :)
2011-03-20 19:38:15 Tibos: maybe extend the clan limit with SUB
2011-03-20 19:38:16 Macey: maybe make that a bought sub feature
2011-03-20 19:38:20 Macey: with the new system
2011-03-20 19:38:20 dk16: Seconded.
2011-03-20 19:38:23 Zorg: would you like a company car as well?
2011-03-20 19:38:24 Macey: tibos shut uo
2011-03-20 19:38:26 anialator: Yeah I have like 3 gang related clans XD
2011-03-20 19:38:26 mohith: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:38:29 Macey: up*
2011-03-20 19:38:29 Risque: Yes, please
2011-03-20 19:38:31 Scott: If you're offering
2011-03-20 19:38:31 Macey: xD
2011-03-20 19:38:32 Toyic: I have 3 too :(
2011-03-20 19:38:35 darp: Oh, extending number with new sub was good, too.
2011-03-20 19:38:37 Toyic: Cars :o
2011-03-20 19:38:37 Zorg: can't we just sell clan spots for the new currency? :D
2011-03-20 19:38:40 Tibos: and give it as an update for free to SysOP or whoever else
2011-03-20 19:38:42 anialator: Yes
2011-03-20 19:38:43 Scott: Yeah
2011-03-20 19:38:46 Scott: Welcome to guide
2011-03-20 19:38:48 Shade: all my Guides uniting together :O
2011-03-20 19:38:49 Scott: now gimmie yo' money
2011-03-20 19:38:52 defosage: XD
2011-03-20 19:38:53 Macey: what me and tibos said
2011-03-20 19:38:53 anialator: XD
2011-03-20 19:38:56 Macey: :P
2011-03-20 19:39:05 anialator: I think people who do game related stuff need a free clan spot
2011-03-20 19:39:14 anialator: but should be purchaseable by others too
2011-03-20 19:39:15 Scott: Is that even possible Zorg :/?
2011-03-20 19:39:16 Toyic: Would this be permanent?
2011-03-20 19:39:17 Zorg: I think game related stuff needs less Clans -_-
2011-03-20 19:39:28 dk16: I agree with this too.
2011-03-20 19:39:28 Scott: Clans are dying out to be honest
2011-03-20 19:39:29 Toyic: or just for the duration of their service?
2011-03-20 19:39:30 defosage: ...that works, too
2011-03-20 19:39:38 KevinMp: How about they all just get a hidden forum? :O
2011-03-20 19:39:44 anialator: Wait am I right to assume guides have their own clan?
2011-03-20 19:39:47 Tibos: Clans have been dying out since gangs came out, but they're not dead yet :P
2011-03-20 19:39:48 Scott: There are like 8 department clans :/
2011-03-20 19:39:49 KevinMp: when u get the rank, you see it
2011-03-20 19:39:52 anialator: Yeah actually a hidden forum would be good
2011-03-20 19:39:55 KevinMp: yes ani
2011-03-20 19:39:59 Toyic: Second hidden forum
2011-03-20 19:40:00 Zorg: don't mods and guides already have one? :/
2011-03-20 19:40:01 Scott: Staff, wiki, dev, guides, forum mods
2011-03-20 19:40:01 defosage: player support, ani
2011-03-20 19:40:08 Scott: yeah but some smartass was like
2011-03-20 19:40:11 anialator: Geez if I became a guide or something i'd have no spot for the lulz
2011-03-20 19:40:13 KevinMp: we still need to sacrifice a clan slot though
2011-03-20 19:40:14 Scott: lets give forum mods one
2011-03-20 19:40:23 Scott: Thats more active than the staff clan bank
2011-03-20 19:40:33 Shade: xD
2011-03-20 19:40:34 Goku: Ani > PM.
2011-03-20 19:40:37 mohith: Lmao
2011-03-20 19:40:38 Tibos: forum mods need to post everything twice :P
2011-03-20 19:40:38 Zorg: I don't think you need more clan slots, I think you need to ditch a load of these official clans and just have me make private forums
2011-03-20 19:40:40 grzesiek17: Just make separate forums instead of a clans
2011-03-20 19:40:40 Zorg: would be a lot easier
2011-03-20 19:40:45 grzesiek17: That only some people can access
2011-03-20 19:40:46 dk16: Btw I need a loan.
2011-03-20 19:40:50 Toyic: Private forums!
2011-03-20 19:40:50 Scott: I'll happily make these department cuts
2011-03-20 19:40:54 Scott: So yes defo
2011-03-20 19:40:59 Scott: you will get your clan spots
2011-03-20 19:41:02 Shade: I'd like the idea of private forum/bank for Guides.
2011-03-20 19:41:08 Scott: Let me cull some dept. clans first
2011-03-20 19:41:10 anialator: Yeah
2011-03-20 19:41:12 Food: ^^
2011-03-20 19:41:14 Scott: Next question!
2011-03-20 19:41:15 Jobu: can gang leaders get company cars too?
2011-03-20 19:41:17 Zorg: Legacy Affairs, Legacy Staff and the Legacy Development ones are the only official ones we need
2011-03-20 19:41:18 Risque: Yay! Thanks :)
2011-03-20 19:41:23 Scott: Guides do
2011-03-20 19:41:29 Food: Guides need one too
2011-03-20 19:41:30 Zorg: everything else can be made a private forum
2011-03-20 19:41:37 Zorg: I mean clans not forums
2011-03-20 19:41:38 Tibos: guides for the clan bank ;)
2011-03-20 19:41:40 Food: Ahh
2011-03-20 19:41:45 Shade: well Guides also need a bank.
2011-03-20 19:41:47 Zorg: oh yeah the bank thing
2011-03-20 19:41:53 Scott: That never gets used?
2011-03-20 19:41:56 Scott: please :P
2011-03-20 19:41:58 KevinMp: yeah -_- xD
2011-03-20 19:42:03 Shade: yeah i'm trying....
2011-03-20 19:42:04 Food: No one mails us back XD
2011-03-20 19:42:08 KevinMp: nope xD
2011-03-20 19:42:13 Scott: Stop typing in caps then
2011-03-20 19:42:15 Scott: LIKE HAI
2011-03-20 19:42:19 Scott: Welcome to us
2011-03-20 19:42:20 Macey: I'd happily cut forum mods clan
2011-03-20 19:42:27 Scott: ok
2011-03-20 19:42:27 Scott: I'll do that in a bit
2011-03-20 19:42:31 Macey: to try and pull that team of mods, chat mods and guides together more
2011-03-20 19:42:31 anialator: Sweet
2011-03-20 19:42:32 Scott: OC done yeah?
2011-03-20 19:42:33 Toyic: blade99 is concerned that most of the updates are for avatars. Will there be any specifically for lowbies?
2011-03-20 19:42:45 Food: I believe so, Risque and defosage, are you guys done?
2011-03-20 19:42:46 Shade: it's OC's go...
2011-03-20 19:42:47 Scott: Err
2011-03-20 19:42:51 Pascal: there are 500 avatars...
2011-03-20 19:42:52 Toyic: Oh, crap, yeah. Sorry.
2011-03-20 19:42:56 Scott: Avatars have waited ages
2011-03-20 19:42:57 Risque: Yes, we're done
2011-03-20 19:42:57 Zorg: We still have lowbies?
2011-03-20 19:42:58 inFamous: 501 pascal
2011-03-20 19:42:59 Scott: for an update
2011-03-20 19:42:59 Macey: now me and shade are in charge we wont take no bother from... silly people :P
2011-03-20 19:43:05 Scott: It's only fair they get one first :/
2011-03-20 19:43:20 Zorg: You'll appreciate these avatar updates
2011-03-20 19:43:24 Zorg: when you're not a lowbie anymore
2011-03-20 19:43:32 KevinMp: Yes. That.
2011-03-20 19:43:33 Scott: Ok
2011-03-20 19:43:36 Scott: Elders
2011-03-20 19:43:36 inFamous: Yes
2011-03-20 19:43:39 KevinMp: Lowbie updates become obsolete :P
2011-03-20 19:43:39 Scott: any points
2011-03-20 19:43:44 Scott: Elders/Rogues ?
2011-03-20 19:43:48 Food: Lowbies have it so easy, trying getting 62m exp for a level XD
2011-03-20 19:43:49 KevinMp: seeing as how ur not a lowbie forever
2011-03-20 19:43:59 grzesiek17: What about bod ?
2011-03-20 19:44:02 Tibos: Reward the performance in the WL round by allowing the gangs to choose their starting positions. The gang that wins chooses first, then the second and so on.
2011-03-20 19:44:10 Tibos: This adds a bit more strategy to WL, solves the problem with unlucky starting positions and should even force people to fight for a full round rather than give up and start saving cash when they realise they can't win first place (nobody wants to be the la
2011-03-20 19:44:19 Tibos: (nobody wants to be the last to chose, while being second isn't usually that bad).
2011-03-20 19:44:20 Zorg: the issue with rewarding performance was it could snow ball
2011-03-20 19:44:27 anialator: Exactly
2011-03-20 19:44:28 Zorg: and the winning gang... the strongest gang gets an advantage next round?
2011-03-20 19:44:29 bcfcespley: win get best start win again...
2011-03-20 19:44:31 KevinMp: that gang would continuously win over and over
2011-03-20 19:44:33 Zorg: meaning they win again... and again... and again
2011-03-20 19:44:38 darp: WE need incentives for gangs to fight the whole round, yes.
2011-03-20 19:44:41 Risque: 19:42:08 [BongHitter] do away with all forums
2011-03-20 19:44:51 Scott: Blackmail works :P
2011-03-20 19:44:52 KevinMp: bong -_- xD
2011-03-20 19:44:53 anialator: Bragging rights
2011-03-20 19:44:55 Platypus: I think I only get like 5000WF points a map
2011-03-20 19:44:59 Platypus: because it's so repetitive
2011-03-20 19:45:01 Jobu: Bong {yes}
2011-03-20 19:45:07 Scott: Jobu
2011-03-20 19:45:07 anialator: Paxed gets 5k a week XD
2011-03-20 19:45:10 Jobu: :X
2011-03-20 19:45:11 Scott: DF has like 90000 clans
2011-03-20 19:45:12 007Ben: XD
2011-03-20 19:45:15 Platypus: and I'd rather kill noobs to get their hate mail as well :p
2011-03-20 19:45:19 mohith: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:45:22 Jobu: and thankfully i cna only be in 4
2011-03-20 19:45:25 Scott: dont make me pinch a penny on yours
2011-03-20 19:45:26 Jobu: no more clan.
2011-03-20 19:45:26 007Ben: actually paxed gets 6k XD
2011-03-20 19:45:28 Jobu: s
2011-03-20 19:45:29 bcfcespley: what about just a random bonus for players that have been in a gang for 90 days
2011-03-20 19:45:37 anialator: 23:43:36 [blade99] if we are going to get more members then we need more stuff for lowbies 23:44:12 [blade99] No one will want to play if all the cool stuff is for the higher players.
2011-03-20 19:45:38 Zorg: o.O
2011-03-20 19:45:42 Zorg: why 90 days?
2011-03-20 19:45:53 007Ben: get to av then :/
2011-03-20 19:45:55 darp: I get more.
2011-03-20 19:45:57 KevinMp: i would think it would just give them more motivation to get av :P
2011-03-20 19:45:59 anialator: Yeah I know :P
2011-03-20 19:46:02 Zorg: lowbies will be getting free items as they level, that should keep them entertained
2011-03-20 19:46:08 Scott: Has this come from Ross with his time in gang ideas ...
2011-03-20 19:46:10 DBall13: entire sessionn
2011-03-20 19:46:17 bcfcespley: i meant for winning wl XD
2011-03-20 19:46:19 KevinMp: ahh ok answered one of my questions before i even asked :P
2011-03-20 19:46:37 bcfcespley: if a gang wins wl, give them like 10% bonus from jobs for 90 days
2011-03-20 19:46:45 Jobu: lol
2011-03-20 19:46:47 Tibos: Potential PROBLEM: the gangs need to know their standing before the start of the next round in order to decide where to start. SOLUTION: Delay the reward for one full round, giving two/three weeks for each gang leader to submit the choice.
2011-03-20 19:46:48 anialator: no
2011-03-20 19:46:52 anialator: God god no
2011-03-20 19:46:52 Zorg: yes more creditsi n the game, that's what we need >.<
2011-03-20 19:46:55 Food: That's a bad idea bcfc, people will just flock to the winning gang.
2011-03-20 19:46:56 Toyic: NO
2011-03-20 19:47:03 Scott: hmm,
2011-03-20 19:47:05 Tibos: this also fixes the win once win everytime problem somewhat
2011-03-20 19:47:10 bcfcespley: hence the being in the gang for 90 days!! XD XD
2011-03-20 19:47:14 inFamous: @ Food have it only to people who were there maybe when they won?
2011-03-20 19:47:19 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:47:24 Scott: Tibos you done? :P
2011-03-20 19:47:28 KevinMp: BoD's turn now :X xD
2011-03-20 19:47:33 darp: Sounds like a new thread: WL incentive.
2011-03-20 19:47:33 Tibos: if the idea is rejected, yes
2011-03-20 19:47:41 Food: That still is a problem, the winning gang will still continue to grow and get more powerful.
2011-03-20 19:47:45 Platypus: Tibos or this, have the gang leaders give the coords they want before the end of the map, all 4
2011-03-20 19:47:47 Zorg: any rewards for winning gangs are rejected at this time yes
2011-03-20 19:47:51 darp: We had one of our topics covered with the new sub/clothing discussion.
2011-03-20 19:47:53 Platypus: that way winner already has their spot chosen
2011-03-20 19:48:00 Scott: Ok BoD except KEvinMp please
2011-03-20 19:48:06 KevinMp: Waa! xD
2011-03-20 19:48:13 inFamous: i say clothing for winning gangs only
2011-03-20 19:48:15 darp: So reps are figuring out what to put forward, but our other point.
2011-03-20 19:48:39 darp: Zorg: is there anything we can do to overhaul improve suggestions getting to implementation.
2011-03-20 19:48:50 Toyic: ?
2011-03-20 19:48:58 Zorg: hire a team of developers?
2011-03-20 19:48:59 darp: Like a voting system.
2011-03-20 19:49:00 Scott: He means suggestion forums being looked at more
2011-03-20 19:49:03 anialator: Yeah
2011-03-20 19:49:09 Jobu: like Pets
2011-03-20 19:49:09 Scott: Problem is
2011-03-20 19:49:10 darp: Ok, there's one thing we can do!
2011-03-20 19:49:16 Zorg: I can look at them, I can't implement them though :/
2011-03-20 19:49:16 Scott: Things are repeated so many times
2011-03-20 19:49:24 Scott: it's like pulling teeth
2011-03-20 19:49:31 darp: OK, is there any way to improve things so that you can look at them more easily then?
2011-03-20 19:49:36 bcfcespley: Ok my suggestion to zorg was...
2011-03-20 19:49:44 bcfcespley: Get the top 5 hardest things to code from DTD
2011-03-20 19:49:46 darp: I think we tried having someone summarize and present to you once.
2011-03-20 19:49:47 anialator: It would be nice if Zorg could go in and personally lock a thread with a description as to why it will not be added
2011-03-20 19:49:49 bcfcespley: put them in a vote
2011-03-20 19:49:52 Scott: ....
2011-03-20 19:49:57 anialator: If you did that people would be more likely to just leave it alone
2011-03-20 19:49:57 Scott: We're not having pets lol
2011-03-20 19:50:00 Zorg: you make a suggestion I think... oh that's a cool idea, but I can't implement it for a long time because I'm working on other stuff :/
2011-03-20 19:50:00 darp: Or more input from you directly in the threads, yes.
2011-03-20 19:50:09 bcfcespley: no pets!
2011-03-20 19:50:16 Zorg: then most would be locked for "Working on more important stuff first..."
2011-03-20 19:50:31 Scott: How about we remove suggestion forum for a year so Zorg can work :D
2011-03-20 19:50:39 Toyic: STill, that would be preferable to no feedback.
2011-03-20 19:50:40 Food: Shut the suggestions forum down for now, until you play to use some of the idea.s
2011-03-20 19:50:40 Scott: or wipe it and have a fresh start
2011-03-20 19:50:44 anialator: Tehn a simple post of "Cool noted" would be good
2011-03-20 19:50:45 Platypus: we should bring back the spam forum {3
2011-03-20 19:50:49 Scott: Erm no
2011-03-20 19:50:56 Scott: Spam forum broke stickies -_-
2011-03-20 19:50:57 KevinMp: platy thats the flame forum now :X xD
2011-03-20 19:50:58 anialator: Wipe it?
2011-03-20 19:50:59 darp: Well, you do have quite a few things in the works.
2011-03-20 19:51:06 anialator: That could work...
2011-03-20 19:51:08 darp: Still, you have also implemented some of the smaller sgestions this year.ug
2011-03-20 19:51:32 Scott: I think small updates will be around :/
2011-03-20 19:51:32 KevinMp: yeah, simple things :)
2011-03-20 19:51:38 darp: So, leave Suggestions as is, then.
2011-03-20 19:51:39 Scott: Problem is suggestions isnt looked at
2011-03-20 19:51:45 Zorg: small suggestions are fine but most of the time when i do them it's like
2011-03-20 19:51:45 Scott: we're all busy and have a long todo list
2011-03-20 19:51:52 Zorg: oh my god why aren't you working on the new combat system
2011-03-20 19:51:53 Zorg: or whatever -_-
2011-03-20 19:51:55 Tibos: One awesome idea for suggestions is the "Thank
2011-03-20 19:51:58 Tibos: " for posts
2011-03-20 19:52:07 Scott: Zorg can we remove suggestions forum for a bit? :/
2011-03-20 19:52:14 Macey: yeah
2011-03-20 19:52:15 Scott: have another forum or something :P
2011-03-20 19:52:18 Macey: you should be able to lock the forum
2011-03-20 19:52:19 Platypus: we also should put hunting back upto 100% EXP gain
2011-03-20 19:52:20 DMaster: Agreed
2011-03-20 19:52:27 Macey: until you finish a project
2011-03-20 19:52:28 Platypus: since taking a month per lvl is still retarded :O
2011-03-20 19:52:30 darp: Heh. Well, maybe keep a permanent thread for the major things you are working on , and have a maybe spot underneath for the small stuff.
2011-03-20 19:52:30 Tibos: it could be used to gauge how much a certain suggestion is wanted by the community, besides the other uses mentioned in the thread
2011-03-20 19:52:31 grzesiek17: YES Platypus
2011-03-20 19:52:33 Macey: then reopen it after
2011-03-20 19:52:41 dk16: They'll just post suggestions in main then.
2011-03-20 19:52:49 Macey: not if i can help it >:(
2011-03-20 19:52:49 Scott: FT will lock it :P
2011-03-20 19:52:51 bcfcespley: ah zorg...dev?
2011-03-20 19:52:52 anialator: We may as well remove it for now
2011-03-20 19:52:54 Scott: he lives in forums
2011-03-20 19:52:56 KevinMp: suggestions are a natural thing. it cant be avoided
2011-03-20 19:52:59 Macey: yeah FT 8)
2011-03-20 19:53:00 Platypus: ?
2011-03-20 19:53:00 Platypus: why not delete it, so we don't have nothing but locked threads
2011-03-20 19:53:05 Zorg: oh yeah I'll mention dev and the market in a bit
2011-03-20 19:53:14 darp: Suggestion forum keeps people thinking and their fleeting hopes alive, though. :P
2011-03-20 19:53:21 Zorg: We could just close the suggestions forum and have more regular legcons instead
2011-03-20 19:53:26 Scott: Yes
2011-03-20 19:53:29 Food: ^^
2011-03-20 19:53:34 KevinMp: monthly legcon? 8O
2011-03-20 19:53:34 Jobu: :X
2011-03-20 19:53:36 defosage: I liek this
2011-03-20 19:53:37 Scott: We have them every 3 months anyway :/
2011-03-20 19:53:38 darp: We could try it.
2011-03-20 19:53:38 Tibos: leave the forum, put a big sticky saying "ZORG IS BUSY, SUGGESTIONS ARE DELAYED" and instruct the mods to lock threads on a very strict basis
2011-03-20 19:53:40 Platypus: I think what should be brought to attention are the people who are either quitting, then making a new account and pretending to be new
2011-03-20 19:53:40 Toyic: But...then won't gang forumns be full of suggestion threads?
2011-03-20 19:53:41 Scott: monthly ... no
2011-03-20 19:53:41 Jobu: ug
2011-03-20 19:53:46 007Ben: lets do it
2011-03-20 19:53:47 Scott: it takes 3 weeks just to set up 1
2011-03-20 19:53:49 anialator: We have them every 3 months!?!?
2011-03-20 19:53:54 Scott: yes
2011-03-20 19:53:54 bcfcespley: dont remove it... just lock it
2011-03-20 19:53:55 KevinMp: then 3 months :P
2011-03-20 19:54:04 DMaster: A LegCon achieves more than suggestions forum do in a year xD should work
2011-03-20 19:54:06 Zorg: I'll review the way I take suggestions anyway
2011-03-20 19:54:09 Zorg: it could be better
2011-03-20 19:54:10 darp: ok
2011-03-20 19:54:20 Scott: Are BoD done?
2011-03-20 19:54:21 Zorg: anything else?
2011-03-20 19:54:23 darp: That's what we were looking for.
2011-03-20 19:54:26 darp: Infamous has something.
2011-03-20 19:54:28 inFamous: Yes
2011-03-20 19:54:31 KevinMp: yes he does -_- xD
2011-03-20 19:54:32 inFamous: Expo Removal: in the field hospital have the option remove expo while gang has the objective, Also in the hospital in hive have the option to choose how much expo you want to clear with a tab ranging 1-100% like when you are buying revival kits you can
2011-03-20 19:54:42 anialator: No
2011-03-20 19:54:42 inFamous: pick how much quantity you want to purchase
2011-03-20 19:54:45 darp: I told him what you would say, Zorg. :P
2011-03-20 19:54:49 anialator: Think about that realistically
2011-03-20 19:55:05 Zorg: so the gang that controls the hospital doesn't get exposure? :/
2011-03-20 19:55:08 Zorg: so can control it forever....
2011-03-20 19:55:09 anialator: Walk into an exposure reducing machine and say "Oh i'd just like 32% off today please"
2011-03-20 19:55:11 inFamous: no they do
2011-03-20 19:55:13 bcfcespley: thats a good idea, but i remember zorg talking about healing abilities
2011-03-20 19:55:21 KevinMp: he means that rather than "Remove Exposure"
2011-03-20 19:55:21 inFamous: but they can remove expo while in the wl
2011-03-20 19:55:24 Toyic: I don't like the second part, but I do the first part
2011-03-20 19:55:33 KevinMp: there would be a "Remove 10% or Remove 20% dropdown menu
2011-03-20 19:55:41 Tibos: blue pills are to remove less than full exposure
2011-03-20 19:55:43 Zorg: that costs the same as bue pills?
2011-03-20 19:55:44 inFamous: instead of leaving hive to buy pills and whatnot.
2011-03-20 19:55:54 DBall13: wouldnt that deflate value of blue pills?
2011-03-20 19:55:55 Zorg: yeah that's possible
2011-03-20 19:56:00 Zorg: there will not be a hospital in map 5 though
2011-03-20 19:56:03 Zorg: so that can wait until later
2011-03-20 19:56:03 Tibos: they wouldn't make sense if you could buy less than full expo removal from the hospital
2011-03-20 19:56:05 Risque: You can buy pills in the wl, if you have the points :/
2011-03-20 19:56:06 grzesiek17: I thought you can buy pills from WL
2011-03-20 19:56:08 anialator: You dont have to lave the wl for pills
2011-03-20 19:56:20 anialator: also NOOOOO Iwant to buy my vicodins already 0_0
2011-03-20 19:56:24 darp: But pills are tradeable, is the difference.
2011-03-20 19:56:25 Risque: Via gang control > gang shop
2011-03-20 19:56:25 anialator: They already way overpriced XD
2011-03-20 19:56:27 KevinMp: the field hospital just allows a spectrum of percentages
2011-03-20 19:56:37 KevinMp: such as 5% 20% 50% etc etc
2011-03-20 19:56:43 Zorg: all objectives can be reviewed when the new warfare / combat comes out anyway
2011-03-20 19:56:50 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:56:51 Zorg: ok is that all?
2011-03-20 19:56:51 Scott: done?
2011-03-20 19:56:54 KevinMp: i have one
2011-03-20 19:56:54 darp: Yes.
2011-03-20 19:56:59 darp: Grrr.
2011-03-20 19:57:00 KevinMp: darp first :O go ahead
2011-03-20 19:57:03 Scott: I have a point about accounts... yay :P
2011-03-20 19:57:04 Zorg: need to mention this Dev stuff before we're finished
2011-03-20 19:57:04 DBall13: cus leaving wl is so hard? i buy pills cus its a smaller %
2011-03-20 19:57:07 darp: No, I'm done.
2011-03-20 19:57:09 anialator: 100% or nothing
2011-03-20 19:57:16 inFamous: Also in the hive i get annoyed when i can remove exposure for x ammount of points, but i dont have that many. I want to click it and it will remove as many point as you currently have and remove that percentage of Exposure
2011-03-20 19:57:33 Zorg: yes that can be built in to the hospital
2011-03-20 19:57:38 Zorg: the wl hospital anyway
2011-03-20 19:57:41 KevinMp: If someone has finished a job, AKA 2000 jobs, could there be a potential reward at all?
2011-03-20 19:57:42 Zorg: as a perk of having it
2011-03-20 19:57:53 KevinMp: Some kinf of permanent or continuing perk?
2011-03-20 19:58:02 mohith: KevinMp it's called retirement.
2011-03-20 19:58:09 inFamous: or a Drop down menu where you can pick how much you want removed so if you dont want 25% removed you can pick 10% or whatever.
2011-03-20 19:58:11 KevinMp: mohith shush D: xD
2011-03-20 19:58:12 Tibos: you get +5c per job from that point on, compared to the 1999th job :P
2011-03-20 19:58:14 Zorg: again possible but not right now
2011-03-20 19:58:20 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 19:58:28 KevinMp: ok all set then on my part
2011-03-20 19:58:32 Scott: Can I make this point quickly?
2011-03-20 19:58:33 Toyic: Which one is getting possible'd to?
2011-03-20 19:58:35 bcfcespley: yes the jobs i agree with!!
2011-03-20 19:58:41 Macey: No
2011-03-20 19:58:46 Zorg: what point? just go
2011-03-20 19:58:49 Zorg: it's already late -_-
2011-03-20 19:58:55 anialator: {XD}
2011-03-20 19:59:22 Scott: Alright basically before I was staff admin, basically it was go to LA or go to staff manager
2011-03-20 19:59:29 dk16: It's not late, Big Ben says it's only 7pm.
2011-03-20 19:59:38 Scott: I'm changing it so it goes to a flow system so Player > LA > Me
2011-03-20 19:59:41 anialator: heheheheh
2011-03-20 19:59:45 Scott: Anyone have any issues with that :/?
2011-03-20 19:59:48 Toyic: No.
2011-03-20 19:59:51 inFamous: No
2011-03-20 19:59:54 anialator: all good
2011-03-20 19:59:54 Macey: No
2011-03-20 19:59:55 007Ben: nope
2011-03-20 19:59:57 KevinMp: cool
2011-03-20 19:59:59 Scott: Ok
2011-03-20 20:00:00 Scott: Go Zorg
2011-03-20 20:00:02 Zorg: Ok
2011-03-20 20:00:09 Zorg: Development Server is shutting down... kind of.
2011-03-20 20:00:13 Toyic: :o
2011-03-20 20:00:14 anialator: OH GOD
2011-03-20 20:00:20 inFamous: Nice
2011-03-20 20:00:21 007Ben: :O
2011-03-20 20:00:24 Goku: Oh no, Ilosttrust will be RUINED :*(
2011-03-20 20:00:24 Zorg: We're going to reset it, and activate it only when we are specifically testing stuff.
2011-03-20 20:00:24 Shade: :OO
2011-03-20 20:00:30 Macey: {8O}
2011-03-20 20:00:31 anialator: BWAHAHAHA
2011-03-20 20:00:34 Toyic: Ahh.
2011-03-20 20:00:35 007Ben: XD!
2011-03-20 20:00:37 Zorg: It will be up for a month or so at most at a time to test something new
2011-03-20 20:00:37 anialator: Good thing I never got avatar
2011-03-20 20:00:43 inFamous: ILosttrust is going to be pissed XD
2011-03-20 20:00:44 Zorg: and we'll be enabling features like character copy from main > dev
2011-03-20 20:00:53 anialator: Sweet :O
2011-03-20 20:00:54 Toyic: Oh, awesome!
2011-03-20 20:00:55 Food: Can I ask why dev is being shut down?
2011-03-20 20:00:56 Zorg: depending on what we're testing
2011-03-20 20:01:01 Scott: That count for staff too O_o?
2011-03-20 20:01:08 Zorg: because it detracts from the main game and having it running permanently was never out intention
2011-03-20 20:01:09 darp: RegLeg is king!
2011-03-20 20:01:10 grzesiek17: oh noes
2011-03-20 20:01:17 grzesiek17: my 2,200,000credits :*(
2011-03-20 20:01:18 Zorg: no staff can access it whenever, but it wil lbe periodically reset
2011-03-20 20:01:20 anialator: Yeah, and it also gets stupidly inactive
2011-03-20 20:01:23 Scott: I know staff use it as a escape from some RegLeg drama :/
2011-03-20 20:01:38 anialator: They can go have an orgy to relieve stress
2011-03-20 20:01:41 Jobu: no escape!
2011-03-20 20:01:41 Risque: It's safe to assume that we'll maintain our settings, etc. Just won't have access to them
2011-03-20 20:01:45 anialator: a hot sexy staff orgy
2011-03-20 20:01:47 bcfcespley: plus it spoils updates
2011-03-20 20:01:50 Risque: Is that correct?
2011-03-20 20:01:51 Zorg: so when the new items are done.... we will enable dev, announce it is enabled, enable character copying to dev and reset it
2011-03-20 20:02:01 Zorg: but only on updates we need player involvement in testing
2011-03-20 20:02:06 Toyic: Will dev still be available only to avatars?
2011-03-20 20:02:07 dk16: I got to av and then never logged onto it again, I've had my fun there.
2011-03-20 20:02:11 darp: And all players could access?
2011-03-20 20:02:15 Zorg: yes only to avatars
2011-03-20 20:02:16 007Ben: yes toyic
2011-03-20 20:02:23 anialator: HAH!
2011-03-20 20:02:26 anialator: ahem...
2011-03-20 20:02:27 Tibos: since it is only for testing purposes, could we maybe edit our accounts?
2011-03-20 20:02:34 Tibos: level/stats/items?
2011-03-20 20:02:40 anialator: NO
2011-03-20 20:02:42 Zorg: basically instead of a hardly ever active dev server... we're going to have a dev server that every now and again will go crazy with people
2011-03-20 20:02:49 anialator: Maybe staff could?
2011-03-20 20:02:58 Scott: Staff will through me :/
2011-03-20 20:03:04 anialator: When reset we could be put at the level that needs to be tested
2011-03-20 20:03:10 anialator: or just set the items to level 1
2011-03-20 20:03:21 Tibos: i remember spending 2 hours testing some stuff back with the stat system redesign just because it was hard to get the correct stats
2011-03-20 20:03:22 Platypus: just transfer all of our data over :/
2011-03-20 20:03:42 Zorg: So it will shutdown some time this week and then come back up with the new warfare map and character copying ready to go in a week or so
2011-03-20 20:03:52 anialator: Hot
2011-03-20 20:03:55 Tibos: sounds goo
2011-03-20 20:03:56 Zorg: so players can come test out the new map pre-release
2011-03-20 20:03:59 Tibos: *d
2011-03-20 20:04:01 Risque: :O
2011-03-20 20:04:02 anialator: Teehee :3
2011-03-20 20:04:07 007Ben: aww yeah
2011-03-20 20:04:09 Toyic: :o
2011-03-20 20:04:12 Toyic: I need to get avatar now
2011-03-20 20:04:20 anialator: Yes
2011-03-20 20:04:24 Zorg: Also the market price guide lines have been scrapped
2011-03-20 20:04:28 Toyic: :o
2011-03-20 20:04:31 Gavrebel: Dev BoD will be so disappointed to hear that
2011-03-20 20:04:32 DMaster: So what will happen about staff accounts.. will we keep our dev level or our level 5 staff level? xD :o
2011-03-20 20:04:34 darp: Zorg: Are you going to make a thread for ideas on how to use the new sub?
2011-03-20 20:04:34 Tibos: excellent :D
2011-03-20 20:04:35 007Ben: :O
2011-03-20 20:04:36 Platypus: I need to buy sub to sell
2011-03-20 20:04:39 Platypus: before it's not worth as much :X
2011-03-20 20:04:43 Zorg: Put stuff on the market for whatever price you want, we haven't decided what to do about storage slots yet though
2011-03-20 20:04:43 Toyic: So, is market unregulated now?
2011-03-20 20:04:49 Scott: DMaster they will be reset but we'll offer a higher level for staff I bet :/
2011-03-20 20:05:17 anialator: People who bought lots of storage are gonna be so pissed :O
2011-03-20 20:05:19 Zorg: we may remove and refund storage slots as we move to the new system
2011-03-20 20:05:25 anialator: Or not
2011-03-20 20:05:26 Scott: Only thing regulated on Market by staff is the image size and 1.0, 1.1 in the description
2011-03-20 20:05:33 defosage: but what would you do with untradeable stuff then?
2011-03-20 20:05:36 bcfcespley: i got like 130 slots 8)
2011-03-20 20:05:39 Toyic: Ah.
2011-03-20 20:05:40 007Ben: what about items that are untradeable?
2011-03-20 20:05:42 Toyic: What about untradable stuff?
2011-03-20 20:05:45 defosage: I don't want it cluttering up my inventory o.o
2011-03-20 20:05:47 007Ben: could you put those on the market?
2011-03-20 20:05:48 Zorg: I can't guarantee you'll get their full value back but you will get some compensation for the ones you purchased with subscription
2011-03-20 20:05:49 Platypus: wait a second..
2011-03-20 20:05:52 Platypus: what abvout untradable stuff?
2011-03-20 20:05:54 Platypus: ;)
2011-03-20 20:05:55 anialator: Refund everyone who bought EXTRA slots, but allow them to repurchase them
2011-03-20 20:06:04 007Ben: aww yeah, platypus XD
2011-03-20 20:06:19 anialator: So we would still have storage
2011-03-20 20:06:20 Zorg: yeah I could build storing untradable stuff in to the regular market i guess
2011-03-20 20:06:31 Toyic: :/ I guess.
2011-03-20 20:06:54 Zorg: I just never liked the price guide lines per item and the only reason the "no storing in market" thing existed was so people would buy expanded inventory space :/
2011-03-20 20:06:59 Zorg: which is just lame
2011-03-20 20:07:05 Shade: keep the storage slots, people will use to place items like Deeg/Pie Candys that they don't want to keep in their inventorys
2011-03-20 20:07:15 Food: Why not just keep storage and remove the market cap, if people wish to still use storage, so be it.
2011-03-20 20:07:18 Scott: Deeg candy is moldy by now :P
2011-03-20 20:07:23 Zorg: Could just give everyone 200 storage slots for free and remove the ability to purchase them
2011-03-20 20:07:27 defosage: but still tasty, I bet!
2011-03-20 20:07:35 Platypus: yes zorg
2011-03-20 20:07:37 Platypus: yes you can xD
2011-03-20 20:07:40 007Ben: thats good
2011-03-20 20:07:42 anialator: Food the problem was that people who bought storage space they did not need would be pissed
2011-03-20 20:07:45 Toyic: Would that affect your sub sales, though?
2011-03-20 20:07:54 Tibos: ani, they will be refunded ;)
2011-03-20 20:07:54 dk16: 200? So I can fit 200 cakes now?! :D
2011-03-20 20:07:54 Macey: My deeg candy looks tasty still :)
2011-03-20 20:07:55 Platypus: Toyic he's removing sub
2011-03-20 20:07:58 Platypus: and doing soething else
2011-03-20 20:08:01 anialator: Very little compared to when he brings in the sub currency toyic
2011-03-20 20:08:06 mohith: dk16 storage is stackable. :P
2011-03-20 20:08:12 Platypus: I discarded my Pie candy
2011-03-20 20:08:13 Macey: so does my pie candy
2011-03-20 20:08:14 Scott: For cake it isnt
2011-03-20 20:08:14 Zorg: Ideally it would be nice to expand inventories a bit more anyway but my god I don't want to touch that javascript :/
2011-03-20 20:08:15 Platypus: since i dind't like pie
2011-03-20 20:08:21 anialator: What? I thought this currency was going alongside sub?
2011-03-20 20:08:22 mohith: Is that so. :o
2011-03-20 20:08:28 Toyic: No, sub is being scrapped.
2011-03-20 20:08:31 Scott: Then don't code it so horribly!
2011-03-20 20:08:34 bcfcespley: ani are you drunk?
2011-03-20 20:08:35 Toyic: But it's still essentially the same thing
2011-03-20 20:08:45 anialator: hahahaha
2011-03-20 20:08:51 anialator: No
2011-03-20 20:08:53 Scott: I swear toyic and ani are sat right next to each other :/
2011-03-20 20:08:54 Macey: I also have 3 T.Brushes
2011-03-20 20:08:55 anialator: >.
2011-03-20 20:08:56 dk16: Javascript is just an ugly language.
2011-03-20 20:09:00 Toyic: We're multis of eachother
2011-03-20 20:09:04 anialator: We're actually having gay butt sex right now
2011-03-20 20:09:04 Platypus: Hey Zorg..I can't move my items into the final row of my inventory
2011-03-20 20:09:11 defosage: javascript is fun :X
2011-03-20 20:09:11 007Ben: XD!!!
2011-03-20 20:09:14 Tibos: use classic inventory :P
2011-03-20 20:09:18 Zorg: -_-
2011-03-20 20:09:18 mohith: anialator O_0
2011-03-20 20:09:21 Scott: Right
2011-03-20 20:09:23 Toyic: Is it hawt, ani?
2011-03-20 20:09:23 Scott: anyway
2011-03-20 20:09:25 Platypus: so this has happened before? :O
2011-03-20 20:09:26 anialator: ooooh ooooh ooooh oooh
2011-03-20 20:09:26 Tibos: Zorg just said he doesn't want to touch it XD
2011-03-20 20:09:27 Scott: Are we done?
2011-03-20 20:09:30 Zorg: yeah I'm done that's everything for now
2011-03-20 20:09:30 Macey: No
2011-03-20 20:09:31 anialator: *SPLURT*
2011-03-20 20:09:34 Scott: Alright
2011-03-20 20:09:39 Toyic: Oh wow. Right in my eardrum.
2011-03-20 20:09:39 Macey: never finished
2011-03-20 20:09:40 Macey: ever
2011-03-20 20:09:40 Scott: I will post the points and logs
2011-03-20 20:09:44 Scott: on Wednesday
2011-03-20 20:09:46 Zorg: That javascript inventory stuff is the work of satan
2011-03-20 20:09:51 mohith: lol
2011-03-20 20:09:56 Scott: as college feels the need to give me 12 hour days on Monday and Tuesday
2011-03-20 20:09:57 Risque: Ok, thanks Scott
2011-03-20 20:10:03 anialator: Inventory age is bugged and has been forever
2011-03-20 20:10:06 Food: I'm off then, thanks staff for hosting this as always. <3
2011-03-20 20:10:07 Zorg: how I got it to work I don't know but I'm sure it involved a wrench and some duct tape
2011-03-20 20:10:10 anialator: whenever i use it I cant scroll accross the page
2011-03-20 20:10:14 Platypus: I haved 3 items stuck there XD
2011-03-20 20:10:17 Platypus: all 3 from christmas XD
2011-03-20 20:10:19 Scott: Thank you for turning up, your points should help
2011-03-20 20:10:24 Zorg: get a proper browser anialator
2011-03-20 20:10:26 Scott: All will be unsilenced :)
2011-03-20 20:10:29 Macey: lol Should help xD
2011-03-20 20:10:31 Risque: Thaks for LegCon :)
2011-03-20 20:10:35 Risque: *thanks
2011-03-20 20:10:36 Scott: and Zorg will remove your special status
2011-03-20 20:10:38 anialator: NEVER
2011-03-20 20:10:39 Tibos: this has got to generate the biggest TODO List in all the LegCons
2011-03-20 20:10:40 Zorg: wait can't scroll ACROSS the page?
2011-03-20 20:10:40 Toyic: I've neve rhad issues with inventory :o
2011-03-20 20:10:42 Scott: End of LegCon! Finish: 2011-03-20 20:10:42

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 Date: 20th March 2011<br>
-With: [[Scott]], [[Zorg]], [[User:Dk16|dk16]], [[User:DMaster|DMaster]], [[User:Shade|Shade]], [[User:Macey|Macey]], [[User:Mohith|mohith]], [[User:Pascal|Pascal]] and [[User:Neltharion|Neltharion]].<br>
+With: [[Scott]], [[Zorg]], [[User:Dk16|dk16]], [[User:DMaster|DMaster]], [[User:Shade|Shade]], [[User:Macey|Macey]], [[User:Mohith|mohith]], [[User:Lucas|Lucas]], [[User:Pascal|Pascal]] and [[User:Neltharion|Neltharion]].<br>
 [[Outcasts|OC Reps]]: N/A<br>
-[[Blade of Dawn|BoD Reps]]: N/A<br>
+[[Blade of Dawn|BoD Reps]]: PlatyPus, darp, KevinMP, DBall13, inFamous<br>
-[[The Chapter|TC Reps]]: N/A <br>
+[[The Chapter|TC Reps]]: Toyic, anialator, 007Ben and Goku <br>
-[[Dark Flame|DF Reps]]:  N/A<br>
+[[Dark Flame|DF Reps]]:  Jobu and [[User:Grzesiek17|grzesiek17]]<br>
-[[Chamber of Elders|Elder Reps]]: [[User:Bcfcespley|bcfcespley]] and HappyDays.<br>
+[[Chamber of Elders|Elder Reps]]: Tibos, [[User:Bcfcespley|bcfcespley]] and HappyDays.<br>
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-<span class="boxtitle">Start: 2010-11-12 17:13:25 </span><br>
+<span class="boxtitle">Start: 2011-03-20 18:14:24 </span><br>
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+<br> 2011-03-20 18:14:24 Scott: Basic rules then i'll hand over to Gustav
-<span class="boxtitle">Finish: 2010-11-12 19:04:07</span>
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:14:33 Scott: Welcome to LegCon
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:14:33 grzesiek17: .
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:14:44 inFamous: :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:14:48 Scott: These events are here to better the game for us and yourselves
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:15:12 Scott: We value all opinions and use this to give mass feedback, some things may not happen but we fulyl explain why not
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:15:31 Scott: Each gang has a rep - if you wish to say something forward it to them,  everyone else will be silenced
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:15:48 Scott: In the current situation if you try to avoid this I dont blame mods if they ban you
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:16:04 Scott: Can all reps please use gang colours
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:16:09 Scott: Staff purple and Elders grey
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:16:37 Scott: Each gang will have the same ammount of time, so please dont interupt a gang rep.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:16:45 Scott: You will have your say we dont value ignorance.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:09 Scott: Also this isnt a complaint event if you're here to just say everything sucks I;m sure facebook is online.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:20 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:28 Zorg: yes please incourage people to post that on our facebook -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:28 Scott: Finally - Staff are here to administrate chat along side mods
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:37 Scott: You have no right to abuse them in anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:39 KevinMp: gj scott -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:39 dk16: Everything sucks!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:46 Scott: I didnt say our facenook }:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:50 Scott: er facebook*
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:55 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:17:57 Scott: Over to Zorg
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:03 bcfcespley: what sort of moron posts on facebook anyway?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:11 Zorg: why is bcfc white? o.O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:15 Zorg: that is my colour
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:19 Tibos: he is banned :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:21 bcfcespley: racist -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:21 anialator: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:22 Toyic: :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:24 DBall13: ... :x
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:26 KevinMp: that sounds mighty racist &gt;.&gt; xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:26 inFamous: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:27 anialator: Bcf beat me to it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:30 Zorg: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:33 Toyic: Tibos, I can't even read that.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:34 Zorg: First topic is the new WF map
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:18:44 Zorg: Which I'm sure you've all read about in the forum
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:06 Zorg: Right now I'm thinking of some sort of day / night cycle
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:16 Zorg: Maybe with some roaming NPCs that attack people at night
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:20 Toyic: Werewolves?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:30 anialator: Oh god Toyic no
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:32 Zorg: As for objectives, I haven't decided on those yet.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:41 Zorg: HQs will be movable with pretty equal starting positions
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:41 KevinMp: You also said something about it involving the old phoenix hive
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:46 Toyic: Best incarnation of the WW game EVER.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:49 Zorg: yeah well it will be based around that
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:19:55 KevinMp: perhaps the romaing npc's are a remnant of them? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:14 Zorg: Yes, the NPCs will be hostile to all (assuming I can get it to work)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:20 Zorg: maybe with an objective that protects your gang from them
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:29 KevinMp: sneaky ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:35 Toyic: This sounds amazing. We finally get roaming npcs we were promised :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:36 Jobu: Phoenix Drops?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:37 anialator: NPC's that kill off AFK players would be a cool addition, and as for objectives, I like the idea of needing multiple objectives to activate something
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:38 Platypus: what type of level gauge will they get?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:20:55 Zorg: we'll see, I've tested roaming NPC AI in the past... I don't know if anyone nosted the ghostly creature I had wandering around the wasteland for a few days.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:00 anialator: Perhaps level would depend on how close they are to a certain area of the map
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:12 Zorg: *noticed
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:17 Toyic: There we go, ani. The closer you get to the hive ruins, the stronger they get?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:24 grzesiek17: The idea of NPC's killing afk people sounds interesting
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:36 Zorg: The ghostly wandering creatures may make an appearance again while I test that side of the scripting.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:41 Platypus: but whats the definination of "AFK" on some maps or at some times
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:46 Tibos: any changes will probably be welcome, but i hope day/night cycles don't correspond with real life day/night cycles. I'd hate to only be able to log on Legacy during the day and miss out on the night NPC's or the other way around.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:48 Platypus: because if you roam around forums while AFK on a square
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:21:53 Platypus: wouldn't that count as well?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:04 anialator: No, they don't attack afk players, they would attack everyone, however players who are afk could not retaliate and therefore would be killed.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:06 Scott: Afk would define people sitting on a  square doing nothing or on a square thats 100% not moving
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:09 Zorg: yes that is an issue with the day / night idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:17 Pascal: some time control objective?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:21 Tibos: a simple 30 hour cycle would do wonders ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:23 Zorg: they would wander and attack anyone they came across
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:37 anialator: Or just a 24 hour cycle
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:38 Zorg: except for the gang that controlled their objective
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:47 Toyic: Okay, now one to the real discussion. Pets.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:51 Risque: And what sort of impact will day/night cyles have (as in attacking, etc.)? Any preliminary ideas?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:55 Lynx: 24 hour cycle using the server time clock
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:56 Zorg: I may just make the cycle random like the frozen phase of the current map
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:22:58 KevinMp: Perhaps night could be a negative effect and the gang controlling the objective would eb safe?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:04 Food: It would be nice to have them have drops, something to make it more interesting then annoying.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:07 Zorg: They will only be hostile at night...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:12 Zorg: Like spiders in minecraft! :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:16 Risque: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:17 Food: Should it be a med or a chance at a pill etc.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:18 KevinMp: haha -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:22 Lynx: :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:25 anialator: Day and night should not be random lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:29 Toyic: Oh God, minecraft.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:30 Neltharion: Wasteland Creepers!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:35 Lynx: agree with ani
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:39 dk16: How is the Day/Night Cycle going to work when our Server Clock doesn't even work properly? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:42 Zorg: but yeah whatever I do rest assured there will be one giant wandering scary one that eats everyone
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:44 Platypus: this could easily be put into a new crafting type of system as well, make it rare since this will only happen for 3 months every once and a while
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:45 Toyic: And I'm in agreeance with ani here.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:52 Scott: That will change with BST DK :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:53 Zorg: ...what is wrong with our server clock? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:54 007Ben: i like the random factor of it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:54 Scott: im guessing
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:55 Macey: In... I think it was an expansion for AoE. They had this sort of cave thing which came out of the ground and these werewolf things popped out. The closer you got to it the the more hostile they were (could be level in this case) but if you owned the little
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:23:59 defosage: 18:23:25 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Day and night could effect the exposure, day time your expo runs normal or maybe a bit slower, while in the night you become colder, making expo rise faster?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:01 Macey: cave thing they wouldn't attack you
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:03 Toyic: It's an hour behind what it should be, Zorg.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:04 dk16: No Daylight Savings Time.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:04 anialator: I haven't noticed anything wrong with the server clock?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:08 Zorg: No it is not
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:09 anialator: Oh right :roll:
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:14 007Ben: yep, 1 hour off
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:15 anialator: Stop moaning about it newbz
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:18 Zorg: It switches DST when the EST time zone switches DST
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:29 Toyic: EST time zone switched last sunday :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:31 DBall13: EST already switched
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:34 Zorg: :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:35 darp: Someone asked if the npc could drop a spectral.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:42 DBall13: it seems to be on UK switch schedule?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:46 dk16: EST timezone reporting in, we switched a while back.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:48 Fiction: yeah the clock is on central time right now
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:50 anialator: Spectral is later Darp
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:50 inFamous: I'd say with wanderers, i noticed that players can be gaining squares while offline, maybe have those players be killed off by wanderers
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:24:59 Zorg: weird
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:07 darp: /me hates spectrals. Make it much later. ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:09 bcfcespley: are we here to talk about big ben or damn updates? XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:10 Zorg: Anyway yeah any ideas for other objectives, let me know.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:17 inFamous: because i seen turdus in on a square last online 45 minutes ago,
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:18 Tibos: submit it as a bug then, i'm sure Zorgy can deal with it later
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:19 Toyic: Big ben is much prettier.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:20 007Ben: no need for names &gt;:( XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:35 Zorg: So many people using white text -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:36 Toyic: I know people have made tickets :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:41 KevinMp: in the suggestion forum, i saw an objective idea that would "Clear" a square
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:41 Toyic: hahahahaha.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:44 Lynx: xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:45 defosage: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:45 007Ben: lmfao
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:45 Risque: Is there a possibility in having the map duration shortened, since people seem to get bored with maps after 6 weeks or so?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:46 Zorg: Ok well there is a thread about that, so it doesn't matter so much.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:47 Platypus: I've used white text for like 4years+ now :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:48 KevinMp: As in, all players dead, 0%
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:51 Platypus: I think I'm due to stay white xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:25:58 Zorg: No Risque, because changing the map is a lot of work for me.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:02 Toyic: Why would we do that Risque?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:03 Risque: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:10 bcfcespley: zorg on beahlf of the disabled community that text is not colourblind friendly XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:13 Toyic: This map is a new one, I want to extend it by three months, if anything.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:30 Zorg: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:33 DBall13: ::no::
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:39 Zorg: Ok next point of discussion
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:44 Toyic: Pets?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:48 Zorg: This will take some explaining so be quiet for a bit.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:50 Platypus: no pets -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:53 bcfcespley: shut up
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:55 bcfcespley: ffs
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:26:56 007Ben: pets :no:
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:00 Toyic: Shhh, Bender.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:01 Zorg: ....seriously, hush
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:08 007Ben: ::no:: *
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:16 Zorg: We're scrapping the current subscription system.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:29 Lynx: :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:31 Zorg: Basically
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:41 Zorg: We're going to make a new currency
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:43 Toyic: Microtransactions :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:54 Zorg: Your current subscription will be turned in to this new currency
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:54 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:27:55 DBall13: ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:28:10 Zorg: This currency will be static and will not count down like subscription does now.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:28:27 Zorg: But having it will not offer any perks like the current subscription does.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:28:45 Zorg: You will then be able to use this currency to purchase temporary and permanent things for your account.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:28:59 Zorg: Temporary things will be things like... a temporary boost to ability points gained per hour.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:14 Zorg: A one time use item that adds a trade to a newly purchased item
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:20 Zorg: Basically replacing current perks for subscribers.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:28 Zorg: Permanent features you can pay for once then have forever will include...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:33 Zorg: Expanded inventory space
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:35 Zorg: Friends List
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:43 Zorg: And.... outfits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:46 anialator: Such as the purchaseable clothing idea that was proposed a while back?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:51 Zorg: correct
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:53 bcfcespley: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:53 Jobu: right
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:53 KevinMp: &lt;3
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:57 inFamous: {3
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:29:59 Lynx: wouh!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:00 Platypus: but with that, will have you have to buy piece by piece?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:01 Platypus: or in sets?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:02 Zorg: All current subscriber outfits will become 1 time purchase items, that you can buy if you like then have forever.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:06 Zorg: You will buy them in sets
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:11 Zorg: or individually if you wish
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:27 Zorg: There will be sales on items, all sorts... new sets, etc
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:31 KevinMp: So someone in our forum is wondering if we will be able to buy holiday items from it. will we be able to?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:33 Food: I'm not sure how I feel about this, I guess time will tell..what about the extented turn cap, a one time purchase?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:36 Toyic: We discussed this last legcon, but it was shot down. Are you saying that you intend to move forward with this despite dissent in community?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:38 Platypus: another one, what would be the sub/new currency exchange rate? EX: 1 week of sub gives you a full week of gained ability points
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:42 Zorg: When you purchase an item of clothing a percentage of the price you pay for that item.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:43 darp: Question: is currency purchased with real dollars, in-game credits, both?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:48 Zorg: Will be going to the artist who designed it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:30:56 007Ben: would each gang have its own clothes? or the same?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:00 DBall13: so the sub we have now will br transferred to comparable amount of new sysytem?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:01 Zorg: Giving them motivation to make new cool stuff
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:06 Zorg: correct DBall
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:10 Platypus: so like paying them basically?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:13 Zorg: and yes you will still be able to trade this new currency for credits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:17 anialator: Now thats an incentive :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:18 defosage: would you be allowed to purchase turns?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:24 inFamous: that is amazing :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:24 Zorg: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:34 anialator: People interested in this may want to check out the Legacy Graphics Clan recently created by DMaster
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:39 KevinMp: Will holiday items be available?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:43 Risque: How would price be determined?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:43 Scott: Legacy will never offer sub for turns - it causes too many problems.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:47 Zorg: Also in to this system we have plans like special outfits... that will only be sold once, and players can bid on. With the highest bidder being the only player in the game to get that outfit
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:31:59 KevinMp: perfect :) answeres my question :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:00 Platypus: wait wait...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:00 Tibos: sounds good
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:05 Zorg: All sorts of crazy ideas are possible
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:08 Platypus: nm.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:20 anialator: Highest Bid should not be visible
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:25 Platypus: thats hard though
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:25 Zorg: But the end thing will be... if you want constant increased ability points it will cost you a regular amount
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:28 Platypus: because who knows what to bid?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:30 Zorg: However, most other things will be 1 time purchases
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:30 Toyic: Then how would it work, ani?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:33 anialator: However losing the Bid should not make you lose those tokens
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:36 Lynx: i somehow don't like that idea :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:37 Jobu: whata bout the increase in turns you get for being subscriber? how will that rate?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:38 Platypus: anialator, it should be highest bidders NAME...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:42 Macey: biddable outfits sound awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:43 Platypus: that way you know what the bid is, just not who did it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:48 bcfcespley:  got the bid system covered to make it fair.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:50 Toyic: We don't get an increase in turns for being a subby, Jobu
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:51 Zorg: Again that will be a one time purchase Jobu
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:54 anialator: That works
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:55 Zorg: he means max turns
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:32:59 Toyic: Oh, gotcha.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:04 Zorg: for the bid system... think ebay :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:06 Jobu: hmm, ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:08 Risque: 18:32:54 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Will the current friends list be erased when this is put in? Or will they still be there but no accessable until you purchase it?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:15 Food: Are we going to get more abilities, right now a good handful of the active players are very close to maxing all abilities, we are in desperate need of a few new ones. :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:17 Zorg: It wont be erased :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:20 anialator: But then everyone would just jump in at the alst second a few credits higher
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:22 Zorg: it isn't even erased now if you stop subscribing
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:24 Toyic: Oh, you're doing full on ebay style?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:34 Zorg: that's just one idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:36 Platypus: anialator thats how an auction works :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:39 Toyic: I.E. enter your max bid, and the system bids for you up to that amount?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:41 Risque: 18:33:11 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Also, may i suggest it become larger.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:46 anialator: I was thinking dark orbit style
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:48 Risque: *the friends list
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:52 anialator: except without loss of cash if you lose
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:33:56 bcfcespley: We also discussed, being able to sell your items for this new currency instead of c's.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:00 Platypus: yeah, paying for more F-list space would be good to
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:06 Scott: *facepalm* Toyic go research ebay in your own time -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:12 Toyic: I use ebay all the time.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:13 Zorg: yes, i.e putting things in your market stand for a new currency price instead of credits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:14 Risque: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:14 Toyic: That's how it works.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:22 Tibos: that's an option: +10 friend slots for 10SUB
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:28 Platypus: that would also work due to the fact you'll need more of that new currency for sure
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:29 Tibos: buy it as many times as you want
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:31 Toyic: Was simply clarifying that that was what he meant by saying ebay.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:34 bcfcespley: No the ebay system would not work....
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:39 bcfcespley: everyone would be last few seconds
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:45 anialator: Exactly
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:51 Zorg: Basically, this system is nicer for players... because you pick and choose the things you want... buy them and then have them forever. :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:34:56 anialator: And I don't like that whole last second bid rush
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:03 Toyic: Anybody ever used ebay? That doesn't happen, bcf. There's a 'max bid' system on Ebay.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:04 darp: Nice and robust with choice. Sounds good.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:10 Zorg: And it is nicer for graphics designers as it gives them a reason to make more stuff
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:11 Jobu: robust?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:12 darp: fugg ebay for the moment.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:13 Jobu: ...k
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:14 bcfcespley: the best way is put a 24 hour time on it, everytime somone bids the time resets, eventually someone is gona make a bid that no one will want to go higher than
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:16 anialator: But yeah overall purchaseable clothing stuff sounds cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:23 Tibos: i think this is a bit better explained than last time, i seem to like it now :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:27 anialator: No Bcf that could last forever
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:30 Lynx: agree with ani again
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:34 Zorg: ebay have had years to perfect the online auction system, I think we can manage with that
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:36 bcfcespley: yeah it could
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:42 Platypus: bcfcespley, but then you get people like CaptainGay who you know, do stuff just to piss people off, wait for 2 mins, then outbid no matter how high
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:44 Platypus: just to annoy someone
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:47 Risque: 18:35:27 &#91;fire4smile&#93; ask about buying auctioned clothes off someone who won the bid
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:48 Platypus: like he did with your market
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:49 anialator: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:51 Macey: thats like a penny auction bcfc xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:52 defosage: in terms of clothes...would this also mean that if you made an outfit that was okayed by staff, you could pay to upload it for yourself?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:53 Platypus: that problem comes along
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:53 Zorg: This is all just basically informing you of what is going to happen, there is one question I wanted to ask reps though.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:35:55 darp: Then we go silent auction.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:07 Zorg: no defosage
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:16 defosage: okay
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:19 Zorg: You can submit outfit items to the system to sell for comission, you can't make stuff just for yourself though
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:20 Jobu: when will this take effect, Zorg?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:28 Zorg: Once it is all created and working Jobu
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:34 bcfcespley: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:35 Jobu: Guesstimate?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:39 Platypus: thats a good Idea Zorg
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:41 anialator: So the person who created it cannot get it for free as well?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:44 Platypus: that way more people start trying out graphics
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:46 Zorg: The main question this raised.... is how would you like us to handle special events like christmas, easter, etc?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:51 Zorg: Do you still want free temporary outfits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:54 Toyic: Yes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:55 Platypus: yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:57 anialator: Sure
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:36:59 DMaster: defosage most of the time, outfits approved by the GFX admins still require edits to shading etc and other things.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:04 Lynx: yea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:05 Zorg: or would you rather have them temporarily for sale.... during the period you could buy them forever
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:06 007Ben: yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:12 Tibos: yes, it's fun to see everyone change costumes for a few days
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:19 Platypus: not for ever
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:21 Lynx: the last idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:24 Platypus: that would ruin the special clothing all together
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:25 Jobu: free temp
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:29 Tibos: yes, have them for free temporary
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:33 Toyic: Temporary outfits. Doing otherwise would ruin the spirit.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:35 Zorg: I know after every event we get a lot of requests to buy costume outfits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:36 Lynx: temporaly sell.. buy keep forever
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:37 anialator: Temporary free is best
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:47 Food: The majority of the game seems to enjoy them coming out at a certain  time, I think it would be best to keep it this way.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:50 Scott: Especially after halloween Old Greg ftw
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:51 DBall13: why not both?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:58 Jobu: you just have to realize there are some outfits or items that could work year round.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:37:59 Food: Although, some halloween stuff I wouldn't mind buying.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:00 DBall13: free, then at end of event bid
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:03 dk16: I hate the idea of having Santas running around all year long.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:05 anialator: Many seriously holiday themed things should not be made available for purchase, for example santa costumes and stuff would be stupid outside of the christmas season
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:08 DMaster: It would look odd having 60 Santa's running around though :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:13 Scott: What dk said
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:19 Zorg: I think bcfc and myself were thinking more 50/50 ... the obviously "festive" outfits for example could be temporary and free... the more obscure ones could be temporarily for sale
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:29 Jobu: Agreed
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:29 darp: Could revisit the holiday clothing and see what can be pulled out, but special event stuff should be kept special.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:30 anialator: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:31 Toyic: Right, I was about to suggest that very idea.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:37 KevinMp: So maybe just some of them allowed, while the rest not :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:41 anialator: Exactly
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:43 Tibos: maybe a collective bid at the end of the holiday: everyone bids on their item of choice, higher bidder actually gets his, the others are kept till next time
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:53 Platypus: does all this mean bcfc is coming back to make graphics for legacy again?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:38:56 Food: 19:38:40 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Have special legacy events with sales for clothing and such, the holiday stuff should stay free and limited. The idea to have limited time clothes for sale is awesome.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:03 Scott: I'd say it depends on the event Valentines has that little heart teddy bear - that would be alright to buy whilst santa hats would turn you into the grinch when xmas comes around
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:03 Zorg: like we have a black / white jacket for halloween... not obviously halloween so that could be for sale
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:16 Zorg: where as buzz light year would probably be temporary
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:21 anialator: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:22 Lynx: about the add trade points to stuff for sub...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:27 KevinMp: Makes sense ^.^
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:30 bcfcespley: yes vince, that will definatly be happening
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:33 Platypus: yes Scott, depends how "Fesitve" that item of clothing is for that tiem of year
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:35 Lynx: someone contacted me and said it's a bad idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:39 anialator: It is
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:43 Zorg: Also every single thing you purchase from this store with this new currency will be like Steam games with a ... purchase for myself or as gift option
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:44 Scott: Great lynx
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:45 Lynx: it would just mess up the market value
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:48 Scott: ... now say why
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:49 KevinMp: So how would we go about judging how "Festive" something is?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:55 anialator: Trades make people think seriously about trading their item
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:56 Toyic: I also have a question about that. Could this service be used on items such as a toolbox or ring?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:39:58 Scott: All market values will be edited :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:00 anialator: Plus we have the toolbox for that
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:09 007Ben: if its easy to tell its for that holiday, temporary
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:13 Lynx: toolbox was a rare item event
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:18 Zorg: I'm not going to allow endless adding of trades to items
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:24 Zorg: as it defeats the point of them having trades to begin with
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:29 KevinMp: Cap at 3 i assume?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:34 Platypus: I'd say carp at 4
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:36 Platypus: dap*
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:37 Scott: Too many trades will damage the game in the longrun :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:39 Platypus: cap* -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:41 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:42 Platypus: like with the tool box
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:47 Platypus: can use it on a 3t to make it 4t
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:50 Platypus: but 4t being max
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:40:56 bcfcespley: Oh hue will be removed to, the grophics guys will create clothes in a few selection of colours.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:01 KevinMp: I think it would ruin the idea of trades altogether being able to add them so easily
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:02 Tibos: adding trades on existing items seems like a bad idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:07 anialator: There is no need for a cap on trades because the max ou will ever get is 4
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:10 KevinMp: Make it expensive, and it should be fine :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:11 darp: Cap at adding 1 trade, I hope, and that item can never have another added.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:16 Jobu: Hue is getting taken away?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:16 anialator: Because adding trades for sub will not happen.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:18 Lynx: yea i say "scrap the idea off adding trades with sub"
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:21 Zorg: Yes we're removing the hue selection for outfit items and adding the ability for artists to select which alternate colors are available.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:26 Tibos: i'd rather have a 1 day period on which all new items i get have +1 trade
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:27 Toyic: Was about to say that it neededto be incredibly expensive, if added.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:29 Jobu: yikes
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:34 007Ben: i like darp's idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:35 Tibos: 1 day/ 1 weeks
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:37 Zorg: So when you purchase a coat... you'll click it and be shown a selection of colors that the artist has defined for it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:51 anialator: :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:52 Lynx: the prices would get out of wack with items having 4+ trades :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:54 Zorg: rather than a broad computer generated selection that sometimes looks horrible
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:41:58 Jobu: so if the artist has no taste, his item won't sell.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:03 anialator: be quiet Lynx no more trade talk
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:07 Macey: Good idea, because on of the hues for ties have a big black blob at the right side :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:08 Lynx: :x
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:09 bcfcespley: exactly jobu
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:13 Jobu: heh
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:16 Platypus: Zorg, could you also have the option to try it on before purchasing? to see if it goes with anything else you have on?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:20 anialator: I actually like the hue system
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:22 Platypus: that you've already purchased?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:26 Jobu: ani: me too
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:33 Zorg: yes we could do that
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:34 KevinMp: Like a preview... i dont c y not
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:35 007Ben: id like being abke to change colors, it makes things more personal
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:40 anialator: There are slightly different shades of blue for some items, and I chose the one I like the best
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:45 Platypus: I think that would save a lot of greif in the long run
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:50 anialator: Like the wings
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:42:57 Zorg: You will still be able to change colors, it will take a while but we'll slowly build up alternate colors for lots of the items we have now.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:00 Platypus: so people wouldn't complain about wasting either $$ they used to buy the new currecny or the credits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:07 Zorg: Plus some of them will be custom colored in... instead of generically rotated through hues
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:41 KevinMp: Cool 8)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:42 anialator: Yeah I noticed that on a coat I tried to recolour once
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:50 Zorg: But yes this is basically our plan, my hope is that it will not generate less income than the current system.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:50 Lynx: awesome 8)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:53 anialator: all the colours change
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:43:53 Zorg: Will remain to be seen though
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:00 Platypus: now Zorg, could we also have a vote every once and a while run who whom ever could start up a vote on the main page like we use to have, about new outfits potentially being made?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:13 KevinMp: It's only adding something and not taking away
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:18 Platypus: with player ideas?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:18 KevinMp: you cant miss :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:19 Zorg: Outfit items will be priced based on how excentric they are, if that makes sense and all items will retain their level restrictions.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:20 Jobu: more new votes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:21 anialator: Just more votes in general would be cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:26 Jobu: all gam erelated.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:38 Risque: 18:44:15 &#91;Ariel&#93; would you have to buy the items each time for a different colour or could you change it once its purchased as many times as you want?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:42 Scott: There not much to Vote on though :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:48 Platypus: another note, I'm assuming graphics people will still be taking ideas from the players obviously to make stuff?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:51 Jobu: there is always something to vote on
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:57 anialator: "Who has the sexiest Body?"
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:57 Jobu: even monthly
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:58 Zorg: you would hope so
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:44:59 Scott: Yes PlatyPlus
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:07 Platypus: Platypus* xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:09 Scott: Er I dont know if DMaster wants me saying
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:11 anialator: There is a clan for that
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:12 dk16: Look at it this way, if we don't make stuff you like, we don't get any sales.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:15 anialator: Ask DMaster.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:28 Zorg: So yeah we will probably do a mixture of some free temporary items and some temporarily for sale items during holidays.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:30 Scott: but we're also setting up a GFX acadamy to help people get into pixel art for Legacy
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:39 anialator: Its already up and got people Scott
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:40 Scott: He will say more at a later date :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:41 darp: Nice idea for artist and player motivation.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:43 Scott: I know :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:44 Zorg: I agree we don't want to see santa all year round though
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:46 DMaster: Indeed,
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:45:56 bcfcespley: yellow santas*
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:04 Scott: Can I still vandalise your design all year round Zorg? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:09 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:14 Jobu: the acadamy sounds cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:16 KevinMp: Of course some designs cant have hues &gt;.&gt;
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:17 Zorg: -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:30 anialator: Yeah, those are called black and white ones Kevin
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:32 Zorg: we're setting up a GFX Acadamy?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:38 DBall13: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:38 anialator: Bwahahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:43 Zorg: who's doing that....? o.O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:46 defosage: there already is one {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:47 Scott: DM :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:50 mohith: DMaster is. :p
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:51 Lynx: {xD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:55 Toyic: is the academy free?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:46:56 KevinMp: He's enacting ZROTH! 8O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:02 KevinMp: Stop him! xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:04 anialator: You have to pay with your virginity
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:09 Scott: I'll explain Later Zorg :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:13 DMaster: It was meant to be a clan helping to teach people to make outfits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:13 Zorg: he realises through the thousands of players we've had through here... only like 4 have been able to make decent graphics right?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:14 Scott: nothing bad dont worry XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:15 Toyic: ...wish I hadn't given that to a puppy.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:22 Scott: Yes thats why he's teaching
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:25 defosage: but some of us have potential &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:38 anialator: He gives feedback on peoples designs and how to improve them
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:39 Platypus: I believe he could also touch up some ideas people have to legacy standards
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:43 dk16: I'll be there to insult everyone's artwork too.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:43 Zorg: they'll never meet my standards &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:45 Platypus: which would also get more stuff added faster :p
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:47 anialator: Yeah thats what he does Platy
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:47:59 darp: But with Academy guidelines factored in, stuff could be in a much better condition to be fixed up and implemented. I think it's a wicked idea.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:02 Scott: I see old man Zorg coming back this may :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:12 Zorg: Ok so next thing we're planning on doing
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:14 Platypus: old man zorg? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:18 KevinMp: If people donate their time, i suppose :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:23 Zorg: there may be holes in this plan as we haven't really thought it through yet
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:33 Zorg: is re-arranging items to make more logical sense
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:34 Jobu: sounds promising
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:41 bcfcespley: oh god zorg this is the one XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:42 KevinMp: huh?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:44 Zorg: so a Taser isn't better than a Rocket Launcher
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:44 anialator: Elaborate
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:48 anialator: ah right
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:50 Toyic: Oh, tweaking stats.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:51 KevinMp: ohh, right...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:48:52 Zorg: naturally this will involve redrawing some of the old rubbish graphics
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:02 anialator: Have fun DM#
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:05 dk16: THe ones you drew, right? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:09 Zorg: not so much stats, more just swapping around item names / images
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:19 anialator: What of playing cards?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:26 DBall13: (Indrid) : nothing huge i just think it would be a good idea for them to enhance the character design selection by adding page numbers down the bottom so i can click straight to page 4 instead of clicking next 4 times
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:26 KevinMp: It would be consfusing for a while, but the new player batch would get it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:29 Toyic: are playing cards going to work worse than broken bottles? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:30 Jobu: taser at close range vs rocket launcher at close range? XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:42 Zorg: don't make me link your old matrix outfits dk16
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:46 Zorg: with their funny shaped heads
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:48 anialator: OOOOOOH!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:49 Platypus: this could also involve new abilities, to get max potential out of the playing cards, you'd have to max a new ability
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:50 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:50 dk16: ;_;
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:55 mohith: Lmao the matrix one. {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:58 Platypus: that way your good enough to get the "Dmg" they have on them
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:49:59 Neltharion: I liked those outfits
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:02 Scott: You mean the matrix ones that looked like the AFTER car crash images? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:06 Toyic: Best idea ever Platypus.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:12 anialator: Seconded to Indrid's comment btw
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:18 anialator: and thirded by Cannowns
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:20 bcfcespley: those suits can go into the 'vintage' section fo the new subtime to buy XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:26 dk16: Fourthing Indrid's
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:27 Toyic: Fourthed(is that a word) by the sexy guy.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:29 007Ben: indrid ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:41 KevinMp: Back on topic? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:44 Zorg: new abilities specific to items? o.O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:48 Food: 19:50:16 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Oh, and suggest the "new" logo over new graphics that are added...the new logo stays until you click on the design.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:50:57 Toyic: I'm fairly certain it was a joke.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:01 anialator: NO
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:02 Scott: Like a watermark?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:03 KevinMp: Noooo! i feel like that would give veteran players even further advantage
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:04 Platypus: that way, if for example, a taser is better then a rocket launcher, it's because of the ability
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:06 Lynx: oh god
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:07 anialator: No abilities for items
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:12 Zorg: oh yeah we're also going to make a new tier of avatar items... but bcfc has that all planned out &gt;.&lt;
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:12 Platypus: like, I don't ever see how a sword can be better then a gun
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:12 Tibos: i think there are far better abilities proposed in the long thread in the Suggestions Forum
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:17 Platypus: without proper training, correct?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:33 Zorg: and obviously new abilities
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:46 anialator: But abilities comes later on
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:47 Zorg: there may be a new tier of stat upgrade abilities as well
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:53 Jobu: any sort of timeframe on the new abilities?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:57 Toyic: oops.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:51:59 Zorg: well faelust is at 100% just sitting gathering back log now
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:03 Scott: A.S.A.P i think :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:05 Zorg: so that has to happen soon
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:06 anialator: And a few others
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:08 Tibos: i have less than 2 months :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:10 KevinMp: a few people are :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:10 DBall13: as well as a dozen others :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:18 Platypus: I'm cloes with Tibos to
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:18 Scott: We're working through random bugs atm
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:22 Guest14814: Wasteland achievements plz - Thanks
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:25 bcfcespley: lol new av tier or new abilities
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:31 Platypus: yeah, what about new achievements?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:32 grzesiek17: I finished all abilites like few days ago
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:32 grzesiek17: :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:35 Pascal: jobu is at 100 too lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:53 Scott: You will gain backlog until a new ability is released
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:52:53 Zorg: So yeah the new tier of avatar items will involve a few new npcs, a few new crystals and will likely at some stage of the process require you to have the previous tier item to replace.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:05 Zorg: There will also be an upgrade available for the Scythe if all goes as planned
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:11 Platypus: :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:12 Jobu: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:13 anialator: Oh boy
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:14 Tibos: sounds exciting :yes:
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:14 Macey: quite a few crystals on the concept art wiki page
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:18 Macey: think bcfc made them?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:18 KevinMp: Will there be an item STRONGER than the scythe?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:22 Macey: look pretty awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:24 Platypus: will any of this involve going past lvl 80? or is that just unmentionable?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:31 anialator: New item to make the Scythe users CRY
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:33 Pascal: and a nice harbringer too
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:34 grzesiek17: If you introduce new hunting NPC's I'd love to get 100% exp from them, not 75% :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:35 Tibos: yes, but you need a scythe to craft it, Kevin ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:44 Zorg: yeah basically some new entities, a new level 90 boss that drops some new cool stuff... and all drop some new crystals that will be involved in getting the new items
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:46 KevinMp: -_- ty tibos xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:53:52 007Ben: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:05 bcfcespley: ps it will be expensive
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:14 KevinMp: That's a given...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:16 anialator: How difficult will this level 90 NPC be for the average level 80 avatar?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:17 Platypus: looks like I sould buy sub time now before it goes away xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:18 Scott: hello 1 mill items for level 100 ? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:18 Zorg: You may need to have a certain set of equipment to even confront the new boss, so new avatars will need to collect the first tier before moving on to the 2nd
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:19 Toyic: Question: you mentioned needing an item to make another item. The trades on the item(say a scythe) will not effect the made item in any way, yes?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:22 Platypus: since this is a decent price to sell xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:23 KevinMp: 200-300 item shouldnt have a 1k upgrade :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:26 darp: Boom. Excellent.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:28 007Ben: so is the scythe going to be upgradable? or a wholenew item?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:47 Zorg: correct the scythe will be involved in its own special recipe if you have one and wish to upgrade it to a tier 2 scythe
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:48 KevinMp: upgraded ben
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:54:58 007Ben: gotcha
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:06 KevinMp: :O :O! Pick me!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:10 anialator: It becomes a laser scythe
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:16 anialator: pew pew
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:20 Zorg: we have a ton of artwork for this, we will likely rework the old spectral item art work in to the new items as well
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:20 Pascal: laser sharks? :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:24 Macey: Scythe with a laser dot? xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:24 KevinMp: Off Plane --&gt; Item Crafting
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:29 KevinMp: Put it there! Doo eett!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:30 Toyic: It should become a broken bottle.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:34 darp: Laser dot lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:41 grzesiek17: scythe with a noobtube
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:42 Tibos: Spectral Bottle ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:45 Toyic: Nah. Toothbrush. Blue :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:46 anialator: It should be a non broken bottle actually
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:49 Platypus: with all this going on, you also have to think about the people who have gone past lvl 80, since i'm assuming you'll have to to fight the lvl 90 guy?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:50 Platypus: or no?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:55 KevinMp: Spectral bottle would be a joke -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:55:57 Zorg: Basically each avatar item will have optional upgrade paths, through item crafting yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:07 Zorg: The amulet for example will be upgraded to 1 of 4 new amulets at tier 2
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:10 bcfcespley: you have to get to presteige 10 and you can buy gold camo for it
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:12 KevinMp: I bet your glad to see a use for that now xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:17 darp: Would this all include some new av misc items?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:26 Scott: We lack misc items :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:29 darp: Or just upgradeable ammies?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:32 Zorg: the Scythe may have its own little cool side quest and story to upgrade... and require a special item from the new 90 boss to do so
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:38 darp: Neat.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:46 Tibos: sounds great :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:49 Platypus: on that note agian, if I found it, it would have 3t right?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:52 007Ben: i like it ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:53 Platypus: so I could sell it to a scythe owner?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:56:58 anialator: And i'll bet this will be even harder to get than the scythe itself? XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:02 DMaster: Shame on those who have recently sold a scythe xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:05 KevinMp: Just a note to BoD... any ideas you have submit them now to me or any rep please
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:10 KevinMp: better earlier than later
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:19 Tibos: it should have as many trades as the Scythe has ....
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:22 Platypus: DMaster, the scythe sellers now have the credits to do this, whilke the scythe buyers don't xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:37 Tibos: 0t scythe -&gt; 0t upgraded scythe
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:43 grzesiek17: Can you fail at upgrading an item ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:50 anialator: U silly grz
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:50 mohith: Tibos, naturally.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:54 007Ben: that would suck :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:55 defosage: oh god no, grz
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:57:59 Scott: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:02 Lynx: hell no
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:03 defosage: that's tantamount to having item damage
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:06 Risque: 18:57:41 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; 19:54:50 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Idea for scythe add-ons, a second blade, and a third. almost look like a bent fork.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:12 Scott: ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:20 Scott: Why not attack with a bent fork then
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:25 defosage: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:28 007Ben: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:29 KevinMp: NI can have a bent fork?!?
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:30 mohith: O.o
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:31 Risque: Not an actual fork!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:32 Zorg: Anyway I've got Dk16 on drawing the new 90 boss
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:35 defosage: a bent fork-scythe!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:37 Tibos: the Bent Fork should do extra amage to Food :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:43 Toyic: Did Scott just promise us a new weapon? :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:43 KevinMp: haaa! xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:46 DMaster: nice
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:51 Food: N00000! &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:53 KevinMp: 10 points tibox xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:58:56 KevinMp: tibos*
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:26 darp: And to pie.
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:46 Zorg: Ok that's everything I need to talk about anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:49 Scott: ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:49 KevinMp: i eat my pie with a spoon :X xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:50 Zorg: So over to Scott for his stuff
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:54 Scott: mwhaha!
+<br> 2011-03-20 18:59:56 Scott: Right
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:00 [Random Roll] Scott: 2
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:01 Tibos: if that's done, could we please return a bit to the extra trades for subscription?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:03 Scott: Ok DF
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:10 Scott: Your agenda please!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:21 Jobu: hmm
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:31 Jobu: Well all this talk of new things is nice, but how about the fight engine?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:41 Jobu: Is it going to happen?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:00:52 Zorg: yes that's coming to, right now I think the new microtransaction system should be my priority
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:01 Zorg: but the new combat stuff will come along with the new 80 - 90 content
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:19 Zorg: the plan still remains
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:22 Zorg: that once you're on the warfare page
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:30 Zorg: you can fight... move... do everything you can now without reloading the page
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:38 KevinMp: Kevin Likey :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:39 anialator: Nice
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:46 Jobu: 19:01:09 &#91;drako&#93; new gang logos?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:48 Zorg: everything will be dynamic and more... game like
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:01:49 007Ben: sweet
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:16 DMaster: Do we need new gang logo's though? :/ some of the gang clothing has the current logo's on
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:20 dk16: Why change the logos? I like how they are now.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:23 anialator: Speed was suppose to show how often you could attack right?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:28 dk16: Plus they're already on all the clothing.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:29 Zorg: I like them dk16, I just don't like TCs
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:37 anialator: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:40 anialator: RACIST
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:41 007Ben: :*(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:45 Zorg: I think the mask on chapters needs fixing
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:48 Jobu: Maybe new versions of the current logos?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:52 anialator: Its like a skull bro geez
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:53 KevinMp: Maybe people who have them already keep them, and we make new shirts with new logos :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:02:59 Zorg: yeah I know I drew it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:01 Jobu: just to see something creative or new that doesnt take away from their general look?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:03 dk16: This just in: Zorg hates TC and has been rigging warfare against them all along.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:04 KevinMp: so that way, it can stay classic :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:05 anialator: :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:08 Zorg: doesn't look much like a skull though, would be cooler if it was actually... a skull
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:09 Lynx: Zorg hates ::tc::
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:15 Scott: Problem as I know, the ones submitted were going to be ispiration for new ones.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:17 darp: It would explain a lot.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:28 Scott: So they couldve changed loads anyway :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:29 Zorg: yeah but I like all the other ones Scott lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:36 Scott: oooh ic
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:46 bcfcespley: Zorg has them in HD they look much better
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:46 Zorg: If we just changed TCs to an actual blue skull on a book
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:03:54 anialator: I'd be cool with that
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:00 Zorg: I haven't redrawn OC or TCs in HD yet
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:00 007Ben: i like it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:01 anialator: It's a bish to draw
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:05 Zorg: I do have DF and BoD's in HD though
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:09 Scott: HD ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:14 KevinMp: high def :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:15 Zorg: like 1000 x 1000 pixels
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:17 dk16: Vectored?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:18 Scott: oh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:19 bcfcespley: Like BIG
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:19 anialator: OMG I want a large image for The Chapters logo
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:20 Jobu: hot.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:24 Zorg: eww vectors
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:24 Food: 20:04:08 &#91;greggy&#93; 19:00:59 &#91;Zorg&#93; but the new combat stuff will come along with the new 80 - 90 content 20:04:12 &#91;greggy&#93; So we have to level now?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:25 anialator: i'll put it on a shirt and make millions!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:26 DMaster: lol bcfc xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:31 Scott: You have issues if your drawing in 1000x1000
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:36 Zorg: No you don't need to level
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:37 Scott: i find it hard with 40x30
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:38 Platypus: and not only lvl, how about the people past lvl 90? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:44 Zorg: The 90 boss will require tier 1 avatar items to defeat
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:48 Lynx: Well i properly have some bad news :( ........ i need to leave sadly
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:50 Zorg: he will not require you to be higher level
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:04:54 Scott: k, bye.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:00 Lynx: Cya all
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:01 anialator: Tier 1 being crystal swords and the such?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:04 Zorg: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:05 KevinMp: Good :) glad to hear that. i didnt want to level up
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:08 anialator: Cya nub cake
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:16 Scott: Wait...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:16 anialator: Punch your parents in the face for me {3
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:18 Jobu: In reference to leveling past 80, will there ever be a gain of any kind outside of clothing?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:19 Zorg: Leveling will remain optional, all future progress for avatars will be in the form of item upgrades
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:51 Scott: Any other questions from DF ? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:52 grzesiek17: What about some new WF items ? I remember bcf posting some in the forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:05:56 Zorg: nope we have no plans to give any benefit to leveling beyond 80
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:02 Platypus: if so, every gang has a few members that are leveling at a decent speed, zorg would even add something only lvl 85+ could find in an upgrade, that could be sellable
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:04 grzesiek17: As we only have 2 right noe
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:06 grzesiek17: now*
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:11 Platypus: since again, every gang has people who have been leveling a little biut
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:15 anialator: That comes later
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:21 Pascal: grzesiek17 concept art on wiki has some :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:27 Zorg: yes but I don't want players to feel like they need to level past 80
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:54 darp: Agreed... things should move laterally upon L80.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:06:55 anialator: Everything added has to be accessible for level 80
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:06 Jobu: Will there be any other WL items released, like different pills, meds, etc?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:06 Tibos: rogues agree
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:13 Zorg: yes from level 80 you may have to train abilities... you may have to work through tiers of items to defeat new things
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:15 Zorg: and get new loot
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:22 Zorg: but your leveling days are optionally over
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:46 anialator: Warfare Weapons is a topic in itself
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:07:54 Jobu: i didnt say weapons
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:02 anialator: Well items in general
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:07 anialator: Bcf did some stuff on that
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:12 Scott: I know greggy had a good idea in main about focus pills
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:20 Zorg: Ideally I plan to simplify the item system as well
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:22 Scott: I forgot what he said tho somethign about a lab
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:25 Platypus: back to clothing for 1 sec, so since lvl 90 and 100 have their own clothing for theselves, will lvl 90 and 100 clothing also be sold in this new type of market being addeD?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:32 Zorg: that may involve removing reputation rewards and hive run shops that sell white items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:37 Scott: Yes Platy
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:41 Platypus: awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:54 Zorg: that will be up to the artists drawing it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:08:59 Scott: Alright Jobu, anything else? :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:03 Zorg: Level requirement will always be based on how cool we think it looks
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:07 KevinMp: so what motivation will there be for artists to draw it if theres only 2 level 90 players? :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:16 Tibos: their cash XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:18 Jobu: Well then my last question is about maps. We have a new one coming, are more planned? Will player made maps still be something to deal with?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:21 anialator: They just have to make sure it is not too awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:23 bcfcespley: money? lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:41 Zorg: We don't plan to go past 5 maps, however we may rework or redesign the other 4 at some point
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:48 KevinMp: if i was an artist, i would want the larger group over 2 people :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:09:51 Scott: I hate the sand one
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:02 Platypus: you also have to think
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:02 Tibos: seconded, Scott
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:09 anialator: Sand one isn't so good.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:13 Jobu: 4 isn't enough to get tired of, 5 will only hold us over so long. more are needed. bottom line.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:16 DBall13: 3rds
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:16 Platypus: will you get 15SUB for 1 item of lvl 50, or 40SUB of 1 item lvl 90
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:18 Risque: And referencing these wl changes, will guard levels change too?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:22 Platypus: since older players usually can pay more
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:30 Zorg: the sand one was just me getting tired of people complaing about starting positions or one gang getting in to a better position
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:41 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:52 anialator: "Waaaahhh they gotted a bettah pawzishon"
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:52 Tibos: i have a suggestion about that, but i'll wait for my turn :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:10:59 Zorg: the way guards work is set to be changed in the new combat system yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:05 Scott: Thats literally what our ticket system is ani
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:10 anialator: Lmfao
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:13 Zorg: the wandering npcs of the next map will be experimental plans for how new guards will work
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:22 grzesiek17: That's actually a good question, how guards stats will change when avatars get their 2nd tier items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:23 anialator: Hot
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:23 Risque: Nice :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:35 007Ben: what if you could change the stats for your gang's guards?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:39 bcfcespley: zorg i think you should make the 5th map a jungle and make the roaming npc predator!! XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:40 Scott: Wont be saying that when a df level 80 guars murders you :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:41 Jobu: Guards should have random equip setups to be well, more random to fight.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:47 anialator: hahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:48 KevinMp: bcf -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:51 defosage: bcfc XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:53 Scott: oooo i agree with bcfc o.o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:54 KevinMp: im not arnold... gtfo xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:11:59 Zorg: the plan is to have guards that with AI patrol in packs around their territory... with harder boss like npcs patrolling closer to the HQs and cloaked / stealth guards patrolling enemy territory
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:10 Zorg: both to combat afking and to make the entire experience more interesting
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:21 Zorg: All guards will attack you without you attacking them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:22 Platypus: would you gain EXP from these guards?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:23 Platypus: or no?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:24 anialator: Thats pretty cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:30 Platypus: since you can't exactly "farm" them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:48 Zorg: The boss guards near enemy HQs will take a team of people to defeat and once defeated will stay defeated for a set period of time...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:48 anialator: As these guards are more proactive I assume there will be a few less of them?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:55 Zorg: and will need to be defeated in order to attack enemy HQs
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:12:57 anialator: Will make barracks more impressive
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:13 mohith: You should not get exp from guards, imo. WF points is all you should get.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:23 anialator: Second Mohith
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:25 Zorg: the entire warfare system will require more... activity
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:31 Zorg: you will not automatically attack those that attack you
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:36 Zorg: if you want to fight back... you will have to fight back
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:42 KevinMp: Good :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:52 Platypus: so if you go to the bathroom while on a square, youe **** outta luck basically? xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:13:57 Scott: Yup
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:00 grzesiek17: Does that mean we will be able to kill afkers without losing health at all ? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:00 KevinMp: i cant wait to see level 10 newbie kill me when i look away for a second xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:06 Zorg: correct
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:09 Scott: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:11 grzesiek17: That's great
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:13 KevinMp: Woot! xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:18 007Ben: i dont like that :P kevin has a point
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:19 Tibos: i disagree, with the posibility to farm guards out of the way, maybe you should be able to get XP from WL rather than PVP
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:21 Scott: you slip and fall on platypus' scythe
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:22 Zorg: If KevinMp is attacking Scott...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:25 Zorg: and I attack KevinMp...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:30 Zorg: I could kill him without him hitting me at all
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:31 Platypus: I sold my scythe Scott :?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:34 Platypus: :?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:35 KevinMp: Ow...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:35 Platypus: :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:37 defosage: more av killing for lowbies :Z
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:38 Platypus: :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:38 Platypus: oop
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:43 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:47 Platypus: I GOT IT
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:50 Platypus: so you can't fight 2 at once
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:51 Scott: Jobu any more or can I move on? :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:52 KevinMp: zorg is a hacker with his phantom cheatgear... ill just run away D:
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:53 Platypus: like real XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:14:58 Zorg: So yes if you come across an AFK avatar at level 10 you could sit there and slowly wear them down :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:04 Jobu: if these floating NPCs are a success, is there a chance of more stuff like this being added to maps to offer more for everyone to do? Or possibly a single player map of quests?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:12 anialator: Attacks are dome automatically right?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:16 DMaster: That's a great idea. More realistic :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:18 Toyic: Zorg, if you are fighting someone, and someone else attacks you, can you attack two at once?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:19 anialator: You dont click attack repeatedly
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:19 Gavrebel: You can't defend against anyone attacking you that you aren't fighting... well makes logical sense at least
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:22 Food: 20:14:34 &#91;greggy&#93; How will building buildings work then 20:14:40 &#91;greggy&#93; If someone can just /cloak and farm the whole square 20:14:43 &#91;greggy&#93; without risk of dying
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:24 Zorg: I don't like quests but all maps will likely have some sort of dynamic NPCs added
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:28 Scott: one at once jesus christ
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:38 007Ben: no toyic
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:15:45 mohith: Df is asking questions, we'll get to the rest of you after Df.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:02 Jobu: Zorg: but how about a single player map you need to fight through to get something or do something on?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:02 Tibos: Greggy, maybe you shouldn't afk even on buildings ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:13 anialator: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:16 Jobu: better than just paying and fighting NPCs
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:23 Zorg: That is what I was thinking of turning Map 5 in to the next time it comes up
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:32 grzesiek17: @Jobu like dungeons or instances ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:35 Zorg: Or more... giving the NPCs a color and their own control of squares
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:37 Jobu: sort of
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:42 Zorg: and pitting the gangs against them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:45 Platypus: that'd be cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:48 Zorg: depends how well all the AI stuff works
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:50 Toyic: Sounds awesome.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:50 Jobu: that sounds interesting
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:55 KevinMp: are u suggesting a cooperative map? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:56 Zorg: we can't do that until the new combat system is in place though
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:57 Scott: Alright, DF done? XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:16:59 dk16: Make them purple!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:01 anialator: Does speed affect attack speed yes or no GOD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:04 dk16: The purple army must rise!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:15 Pascal: scrin? :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:19 grzesiek17: I can't think of anything else at the moment
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:23 Zorg: There will be a little bar that goes up and down which determines how fast you attack and yes it will be controlled by attack speed
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:31 anialator: Right.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:36 Jobu: Done.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:38 DBall13: ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:43 Scott: Good questions :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:48 Scott: Alright ... TC
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:17:55 Zorg: so faster attack speed characters will be able to get 2-3 attacks in on a character with base attack speed in warfare
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:08 Toyic: First: Spectrals!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:10 Zorg: making it more... important a stat
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:17 Scott: great
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:18 Scott: xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:19 Toyic: Last legcon, we were told they would come back for holidays.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:22 anialator: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:25 Scott: I can answer this!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:25 Toyic: In order for others to get banners, etc.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:25 Platypus: Zorg, C-Swords have more speed then Scythes and C-blades
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:31 Toyic: Which holidays?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:33 Platypus: will that mean C-Swords will be some what more usefull?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:33 Zorg: but one of the tier 2 amulets will be high in speed :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:34 007Ben: and after several holidays, they never appeared
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:40 Platypus: since we will have more speed points?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:41 Scott: Alright last LegCon yes it was decided to remove them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:46 Platypus: or be able to put more points into dodge/accuracy?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:55 Tibos: platypus, i'm sure the stats will be rebalanced with the new system
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:18:58 Zorg: I don't know, players really didn't like Spectral items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:05 Zorg: they were amusing for like... a week?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:13 Scott: but we didnt feel cofortable adding them to holidays and felt they needed their own holiday :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:14 Platypus: I only wanted them for the banner
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:15 Toyic: Which is why you decided to only put them in during hilidays.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:16 anialator: Because everyone got them in a week
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:17 Platypus: then I didn't even fight for them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:18 Platypus: again
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:19 KevinMp: So when the new system is released, are we granted a free stat change? &lt;3
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:19 Scott: just needs to be decided when :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:32 Toyic: Ah, sounds good then. Spectral day!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:43 Zorg: what we could do is find a period of the calendar that is really empty
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:45 007Ben: how often would this day occur?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:47 Zorg: and make a new legacy holiday to go there
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:51 Scott: yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:55 DBall13: all 3 spectrals on 1 day? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:56 dk16: Will there be cake?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:58 Zorg: that would mean we couldn't use them for tier 2 graphics though :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:59 anialator: Like woah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:19:59 Platypus: June XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:00 Platypus: would July
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:02 Platypus: would be best XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:03 Toyic: The cake is a lie.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:05 Scott: dk flour is expensive thesedays
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:07 Jobu: DBall: now that sounds interesting
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:09 Scott: Mud Pies
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:10 Zorg: all 3 at once is not technically viable lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:12 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:15 Scott: all 3...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:22 Scott: Sorry you can deal with the tickets i will get
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:25 anialator: Oh god
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:26 Zorg: would probably just be a week of cycling spectrals
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:27 Toyic: Well, could we have three weeks of the holiday
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:29 Tibos: Zorg, maybe keep using them till the new items are up and running
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:33 Tibos: i'm sure it'll be a while
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:34 Toyic: And each one on a different week?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:39 Zorg: really... 3 whole weeks of spectral items? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:45 DBall13: too much
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:46 anialator: Thats how it was and people were like waaahhh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:49 Toyic: I don't know how to divide 3 by 7 evenly
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:53 Scott: Unless we bring them back once a month :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:54 007Ben: what if 1 day a month was a different item?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:54 anialator: 1 week of all 3 changing tops
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:20:58 Toyic: I'm having conniptions. lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:03 anialator: I like 1 day a month
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:09 Zorg: we could do like 9 days then
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:12 Jobu: 1 day a month is fine
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:14 Zorg: one each day going round
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:14 Toyic: 9 days sounds good.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:17 Scott: 1 day O_o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:22 Scott: I was thinking weekend tbh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:22 anialator: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:23 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:30 anialator: so people will actually be like OMG SPECTRALS
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:31 Zorg: one day a month sucks lets make it a Legacy holiday
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:32 Platypus: this will be a quick one, I remember scott saying something about a new title being given to lvl 90's and 100's
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:33 Tibos: i know, how about a weeken per week?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:34 Zorg: for 9 days
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:38 Platypus: will that coincide with anything ebing added?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:40 Toyic: That'll give everyone ample time to earn the banners, once per year.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:42 Platypus: like, with the new syste,?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:48 Scott: Titles are being finalised
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:50 anialator: Fair enough 9 days a month works
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:51 Scott: My bad on that
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:56 Toyic: No, no, no, Ani.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:56 anialator: |I mean a year durr
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:59 Toyic: yeah. lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:21:59 Zorg: yeah DMaster can sort out the spectral holiday
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:07 Zorg: we'll get some graphics and stuff for it as well
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:16 Zorg: maybe have Joe sell cardboard cut out spectral items :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:16 anialator: 23:22:05 &#91;Lilo&#93; i demand an explanation of why Chambers of Fire Item Crafting is in off plane.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:19 anialator: Go on then.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:20 Tibos: 9 days a month is almost as much as there were before .....
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:23 007Ben: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:25 Scott: Joe needs to be shot
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:25 DMaster: lol yeah i can do that
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:27 Scott: I dont like him
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:28 007Ben: lilo ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:31 Zorg: 9 days a year Tibos
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:33 Toyic: I love joe!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:35 DBall13: i think its 9 days a yr tib
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:37 Tibos: yes, i read, thank you
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:51 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:22:52 Zorg: an explanation of why item crafting is avatar only?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:02 Scott: say what o.o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:07 anialator: I guess yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:07 Toyic: I'm confused.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:13 anialator: I was a little confused too
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:14 Scott: ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:16 Zorg: because... tier 2 items are avatar only :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:18 Zorg: next
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:20 Scott: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:22 Tibos: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:23 Scott: next tc point
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:25 Scott: plox
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:25 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:28 007Ben: we want wl items back
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:31 Scott: ....
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:33 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:39 Scott: /me goes to deskslam
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:46 Zorg: WL items sucked :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:50 Toyic: ::yes::
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:52 Zorg: you can get them as hunting drops go hunt
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:52 anialator: Thats just awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:53 mohith: With spectrals going to be live will players get only a fraction of the wf pts usually? Since we now have expo removal?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:23:57 Scott: They're in hunting now -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:02 Scott: you guys loved that idea
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:04 anialator: New warfare weapons
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:09 Platypus: not weapons
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:11 Platypus: just new WF items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:12 mohith: If you have the spectral that is, because expo removal and spectral?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:13 anialator: Increasing in price each time you buy them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:15 Zorg: that would defeat the point of removing them &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:24 Platypus: they would be flooded within a week
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:29 Platypus: with some peoples back log of WF points
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:30 Zorg: there are too many shops it is too confusing for new players
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:33 Scott: Market would be damaged :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:35 Zorg: we are trying to simplify the item system
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:43 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:44 Zorg: i.e you get items from hunting...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:24:56 Toyic: It's only 9 days a year, though. It's not going to completely unbalance anything.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:04 007Ben: but not wfp are pretty muvh useless :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:04 Scott: ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:13 anialator: What?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:18 Scott: 9 days is a long time
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:20 anialator: Toyic we're talki9ng about wf items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:22 Zorg: no they aren't you use them to buy blue pills
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:27 Toyic: I was addressing platypus.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:30 Pascal: So you want more stuff to spend on?..
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:35 anialator: Yes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:38 007Ben: exactly
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:48 Zorg: that is fine... you're just not spending them on armor, weapons or misc items anymore
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:25:55 Food: WL achievements will drain WF points. &lt;3
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:26:05 Platypus: I think the best idea would be more items to the WL hospital, more items to the WL shop, like new pills, new usable items not weapons
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:26:07 Scott: Are you talking to Ross, Food?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:26:08 Platypus: and maybe new items to the WF shop
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:26:16 Food: No :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:26:51 Scott: Yeah Zorg, Ross would like to know when WL achievements are coming
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:01 Zorg: isn't he the one making them? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:07 Food: Hey scott, that was my question for OC's turn &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:08 Scott: He made them apparently
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:11 Scott: and sent them you
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:15 Scott: re-send?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:21 Zorg: I think a lot of them will be messed up by the new warfare system though
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:22 bcfcespley: theyre not 100% complete
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:24 anialator: 23:26:32 &#91;blade99&#93; Whats the point of wling for blue pills so you can wl more for more blue pills
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:29 bcfcespley: plus new wf is on its way?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:33 Zorg: so probably best wait until after the new combat system / guards / etc
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:36 Scott: kk
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:42 Scott: someone go tell Ross
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:48 Scott: oh he;s here
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:27:51 Scott: /me waves at Guest
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:05 007Ben: blade99 hit the nail on the head
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:10 Scott: Kind if sad I know Ross' ip off by heart
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:14 Scott: anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:22 Scott: next tc point
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:24 anialator: 23:25:37 &#91;blade99&#93; We need a reason to go into the wl
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:29 Scott: ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:33 Zorg: go in the WL to help your gang!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:35 Scott: You're kidding right
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:37 DBall13: haha
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:38 Pascal: those blue pills are draining already? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:41 Food: Can we please move on to another gang
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:43 anialator: Our other point was.... Abilities I think?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:49 007Ben: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:49 anialator: ugggggghhhhhhh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:51 Scott: abilities have been answered
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:54 anialator: Yeah make more
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:56 Scott: We will add more asap
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:28:59 Food: I dont mean to be rude, but my god
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:01 Scott: backlog is active
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:01 anialator: Cool, next gang
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:10 DBall13: active since xmas 8)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:10 Scott: ok Food
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:13 Zorg: I'm sorry but with the WL items... you went in the WL... to get points... to get the items.. to sell the items for credits... to use those credits reviving so you could spend more time in the WL
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:14 007Ben: thats it from us XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:16 Zorg: we just simplified the system
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:29 anialator: Well more consumables in the wl would be good
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:38 anialator: But I guess thats what the focus shot is all about
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:38 Platypus: ani's right
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:40 Tibos: actually, you went in WL to get points to get items, to give to newbies so they like the game and come in WL and kick ass
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:40 007Ben: focus pills, for example
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:59 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:29:59 anialator: One shot of this secret formula will have your focus back on track. (would come with a 'cool down' icon once used:  So it can only be used once every 15 minutes, so its not abusable)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:00 Zorg: You don't help newbies Tibos. :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:21 Zorg: yes fatigue reducing and focus increasing pills have been suggested already
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:21 Scott: ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:24 DBall13: what about a pill that increases stats 5% for 3 mins?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:25 Scott: OC - go
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:28 Scott: Food
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:30 Zorg: I'm fine with that sort of thing
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:34 Risque: Defosage goes first
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:45 defosage: Adding a confirmation button to contest council members
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:46 anialator: Refer to BCF for details on consumable warfare items
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:30:50 Food: My question was about the WL Achievements which has been adressed.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:01 anialator: It was?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:05 Scott: You guys and your misclicks
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:16 Scott: If i did that id wipe half of legacy out :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:27 inFamous: @ Dball, Why not have a pill for increasing stats, but it only increases one at a time? like defense, acc, dodge, etc;
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:29 anialator: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:32 Platypus: Scott, hopefully the bad half ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:35 Scott: Zorg can we have a confirm screen on gangs that can contest? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:48 Zorg: ...really? o.O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:48 Platypus: inFamous because that would imbalance the game
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:49 anialator: Hells yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:52 Risque: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:53 Platypus: since whats stopping me from buying 100 of em
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:56 Platypus: and being unbeatable?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:31:57 Scott: Yes - they have a large ammount of misclicks
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:01 Toyic: Ye splease.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:02 Pascal: a lot of people do a whoops
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:04 anialator: Non stackable Palty
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:10 Risque: There are accidental contests
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:15 inFamous: Well have a time limit on how often you can use them
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:19 Zorg: You guys suck at clicking stuff.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:19 Jobu: misclicks?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:20 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:21 Food: I've been contested 7 times now I think by accident. XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:26 defosage: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:26 Neltharion: ertain people have accidentally gotten onto council
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:27 anialator: Actually thats a lie there are no misclicks
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:30 Tibos: by "accident"
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:32 KevinMp: yeah food.... an accident... xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:33 Neltharion: *Certain
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:36 Zorg: accidentally got on the council lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:37 anialator: Just people who realise their stupidity when they have contested someone awesome
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:38 mohith: Accident. :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:40 Scott: We need a cain for every gang :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:44 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:55 Scott: Or cain should become schizophrenic
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:55 Jobu: 1 Cain is enough
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:32:55 Zorg: Cain has been known to misclick things *cough*
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:00 Neltharion: Deity wars?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:02 Jobu: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:03 Pascal: :x
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:08 KevinMp: hehe xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:11 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:14 Macey: O_O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:14 Scott: Oc next point
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:15 Zorg: Cain once accidentally posted in the TC forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:20 Zorg: ANYWAY
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:21 anialator: Oh god
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:21 Tibos: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:22 Food: So can we please have a confirmation screen for this?&lt;3
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:26 007Ben: lmao
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:29 Scott: Zorgs adding one yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:30 Zorg: yes I'll add a confirmation screen lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:33 Toyic: How'd that turn out? xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:35 Zorg: what? screw you scott
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:38 Scott: :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:41 Risque: Thanks :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:44 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:46 Scott: Im building on your todo list
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:50 darp: Are you sure you want to contest darp?!?!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:51 Scott: you aint getting holidays this year
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:52 darp: Perfect.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:53 Risque: 6Vincent6 had a suggestion for a new wl objective
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:56 anialator: hahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:33:56 Jobu: have Scott do it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:01 Zorg: I'm going to add a "Delete Account" button that randomly circles the contest button
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:05 Scott: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:07 Risque: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:07 defosage: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:09 darp: HAHAAHHAA
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:10 Toyic: Hahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:10 inFamous: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:10 Pascal: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:10 Jobu: hahah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:14 007Ben: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:15 Scott: Should do that to RC failed logins
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:16 inFamous: ohmy
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:21 darp: Better be sure! lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:22 Zorg: new wl objective?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:25 mohith: Scott {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:27 Scott: Zorg deleted as fail happens
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:33 dk16: You do that and I'm quitting staff anyway.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:41 Scott: WHAT
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:43 Risque: Yes. Something that may run on EMP and causes a massive event
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:34:57 Scott: You have to hand your resignation in 7 years early you know that right? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:04 Zorg: that's very unspecific
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:14 Risque: 19:01:06 &#91;6Vincent6&#93; Some sort of objective that quakes the earth, causing the other objectives to malfuntion for an hour.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:18 Risque: Be patient :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:21 Pascal: crashes legacy servers?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:25 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:30 anialator: Bwahahahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:31 Zorg: An anti-objective objective?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:31 Risque: Could destroy buildings too
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:37 anialator: Good god no
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:40 dk16: It's called "Nippon Got Tired"
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:44 Scott: Tsunami by any chance? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:45 Toyic: No to the buildings.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:35:49 KevinMp: nippon &lt;3 xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:00 Risque: It'd be something very random
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:11 Scott: Tsunami is random...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:17 Zorg: Tell 6vincent6 to post it in my thread when he has a more clear idea :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:20 anialator: A tsunami controlled by a dam
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:22 Risque: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:28 darp: For future reference a tweek to the Jammer not blinding the controlling gang or halting their building progress.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:28 anialator: That gets opened by an objective and floods things
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:35 mohith: More details the better Vince. ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:36 DBall13: it maxes expo for all opposing gangs
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:44 DBall13: hows that for an objective :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:52 Zorg: for technical reasons it has to jam the controlling gang as well lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:53 KevinMp: Haha! in yo face! xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:54 anialator: Thats pretty bad Dball
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:57 darp: Balls. XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:36:59 KevinMp: Awww :( xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:00 Scott: I swear you guys are impatient
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:10 Scott: OC
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:13 Scott: any more topics? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:13 Zorg: an objective that takes 10 seconds to charge up then kills everyone still in the wasteland :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:16 anialator: It's all the caffiene
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:16 Risque: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:19 defosage: Administrative clan spots.  I know it's "DtD", but it would be helpful
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:27 Scott: Ad ma what what
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:28 Zorg: clarify...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:35 anialator: Eborate
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:40 Toyic: Confused again.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:42 mohith: *Lighting Storm terrorizes the Wasteland injuring everyone*
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:43 KevinMp: Yes Defo! i've had to give up 2 clans recently :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:46 Risque: There are currently only 4
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:47 defosage: for example, I'm a guide, and a wiki sysop.  If I want to be an OC mentor, that's two more clans
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:53 Scott: Oh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:55 darp: We had an ask for expanding number of clans. But for the administrative, leadership puts 2 or 3 as offical clans? Exempt from the 4 limit?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:37:55 defosage: and they're all game-related
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:00 Scott: You want more clan spots for working for Legacy
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:04 defosage: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:07 Risque: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:07 KevinMp: yes :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:15 Tibos: maybe extend the clan limit with SUB
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:16 Macey: maybe make that a bought sub feature
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:20 Macey: with the new system
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:20 dk16: Seconded.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:23 Zorg: would you like a company car as well?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:24 Macey: tibos shut uo
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:26 anialator: Yeah I have like 3 gang related clans XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:26 mohith: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:29 Macey: up*
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:29 Risque: Yes, please
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:31 Scott: If you're offering
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:31 Macey: xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:32 Toyic: I have 3 too :(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:35 darp: Oh, extending number with new sub was good, too.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:37 Toyic: Cars :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:37 Zorg: can't we just sell clan spots for the new currency? :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:40 Tibos: and give it as an update for free to SysOP or whoever else
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:42 anialator: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:43 Scott: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:46 Scott: Welcome to guide
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:48 Shade: all my Guides uniting together :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:49 Scott: now gimmie yo' money
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:52 defosage: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:53 Macey: what me and tibos said
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:53 anialator: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:38:56 Macey: :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:05 anialator: I think people who do game related stuff need a free clan spot
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:14 anialator: but should be purchaseable by others too
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:15 Scott: Is that even possible Zorg :/?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:16 Toyic: Would this be permanent?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:17 Zorg: I think game related stuff needs less Clans -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:28 dk16: I agree with this too.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:28 Scott: Clans are dying out to be honest
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:29 Toyic: or just for the duration of their service?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:30 defosage: ...that works, too
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:38 KevinMp: How about they all just get a hidden forum? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:44 anialator: Wait am I right to assume guides have their own clan?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:47 Tibos: Clans have been dying out since gangs came out, but they're not dead yet :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:48 Scott: There are like 8 department clans :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:49 KevinMp: when u get the rank, you see it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:52 anialator: Yeah actually a hidden forum would be good
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:55 KevinMp: yes ani
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:39:59 Toyic: Second hidden forum
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:00 Zorg: don't mods and guides already have one? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:01 Scott: Staff, wiki, dev, guides, forum mods
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:01 defosage: player support, ani
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:08 Scott: yeah but some smartass was like
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:11 anialator: Geez if I became a guide or something i'd have no spot for the lulz
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:13 KevinMp: we still need to sacrifice a clan slot though
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:14 Scott: lets give forum mods one
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:23 Scott: Thats more active than the staff clan bank
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:33 Shade: xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:34 Goku: Ani &gt; PM.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:37 mohith: Lmao
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:38 Tibos: forum mods need to post everything twice :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:38 Zorg: I don't think you need more clan slots, I think you need to ditch a load of these official clans and just have me make private forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:40 grzesiek17: Just make separate forums instead of a clans
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:40 Zorg: would be a lot easier
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:45 grzesiek17: That only some people can access
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:46 dk16: Btw I need a loan.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:50 Toyic: Private forums!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:50 Scott: I'll happily make these department cuts
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:54 Scott: So yes defo
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:40:59 Scott: you will get your clan spots
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:02 Shade: I'd like the idea of private forum/bank for Guides.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:08 Scott: Let me cull some dept. clans first
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:10 anialator: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:12 Food: ^^
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:14 Scott: Next question!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:15 Jobu: can gang leaders get company cars too?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:17 Zorg: Legacy Affairs, Legacy Staff and the Legacy Development ones are the only official ones we need
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:18 Risque: Yay! Thanks :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:23 Scott: Guides do
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:29 Food: Guides need one too
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:30 Zorg: everything else can be made a private forum
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:37 Zorg: I mean clans not forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:38 Tibos: guides for the clan bank ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:40 Food: Ahh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:45 Shade: well Guides also need a bank.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:47 Zorg: oh yeah the bank thing
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:53 Scott: That never gets used?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:56 Scott: please :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:41:58 KevinMp: yeah -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:03 Shade: yeah i'm trying....
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:04 Food: No one mails us back XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:08 KevinMp: nope xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:13 Scott: Stop typing in caps then
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:15 Scott: LIKE HAI
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:19 Scott: Welcome to us
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:20 Macey: I'd happily cut forum mods clan
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:27 Scott: ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:27 Scott: I'll do that in a bit
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:31 Macey: to try and pull that team of mods, chat mods and guides together more
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:31 anialator: Sweet
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:32 Scott: OC done yeah?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:33 Toyic: blade99 is concerned that most of the updates are for avatars. Will there be any specifically for lowbies?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:45 Food: I believe so, Risque and defosage, are you guys done?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:46 Shade: it's OC's go...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:47 Scott: Err
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:51 Pascal: there are 500 avatars...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:52 Toyic: Oh, crap, yeah. Sorry.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:56 Scott: Avatars have waited ages
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:57 Risque: Yes, we're done
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:57 Zorg: We still have lowbies?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:58 inFamous: 501 pascal
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:59 Scott: for an update
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:42:59 Macey: now me and shade are in charge we wont take no bother from... silly people :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:05 Scott: It's only fair they get one first :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:20 Zorg: You'll appreciate these avatar updates
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:24 Zorg: when you're not a lowbie anymore
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:32 KevinMp: Yes. That.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:33 Scott: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:36 Scott: Elders
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:36 inFamous: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:39 KevinMp: Lowbie updates become obsolete :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:39 Scott: any points
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:44 Scott: Elders/Rogues ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:48 Food: Lowbies have it so easy, trying getting 62m exp for a level XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:49 KevinMp: seeing as how ur not a lowbie forever
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:43:59 grzesiek17: What about bod ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:02 Tibos: Reward the performance in the WL round by allowing the gangs to choose their starting positions. The gang that wins chooses first, then the second and so on.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:10 Tibos: This adds a bit more strategy to WL, solves the problem with unlucky starting positions and should even force people to fight for a full round rather than give up and start saving cash when they realise they can't win first place (nobody wants to be the la
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:19 Tibos: (nobody wants to be the last to chose, while being second isn't usually that bad).
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:20 Zorg: the issue with rewarding performance was it could snow ball
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:27 anialator: Exactly
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:28 Zorg: and the winning gang... the strongest gang gets an advantage next round?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:29 bcfcespley: win get best start win again...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:31 KevinMp: that gang would continuously win over and over
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:33 Zorg: meaning they win again... and again... and again
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:38 darp: WE need incentives for gangs to fight the whole round, yes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:41 Risque: 19:42:08 &#91;BongHitter&#93; do away with all forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:51 Scott: Blackmail works :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:52 KevinMp: bong -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:53 anialator: Bragging rights
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:55 Platypus: I think I only get like 5000WF points a map
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:44:59 Platypus: because it's so repetitive
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:01 Jobu:  Bong {yes}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:07 Scott: Jobu
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:07 anialator: Paxed gets 5k a week XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:10 Jobu: :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:11 Scott: DF has like 90000 clans
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:12 007Ben: XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:15 Platypus: and I'd rather kill noobs to get their hate mail as well :p
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:19 mohith: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:22 Jobu: and thankfully i cna only be in 4
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:25 Scott: dont make me pinch  a penny on yours
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:26 Jobu: no more clan.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:26 007Ben: actually paxed gets 6k XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:28 Jobu: s
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:29 bcfcespley: what about just a random bonus for players that have been in a gang for 90 days
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:37 anialator: 23:43:36 &#91;blade99&#93; if we are going to get more members then we need more stuff for lowbies 23:44:12 &#91;blade99&#93; No one will want to play if all the cool stuff is for the higher players.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:38 Zorg: o.O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:42 Zorg: why 90 days?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:53 007Ben: get to av then :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:55 darp: I get more.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:57 KevinMp: i would think it would just give them more motivation to get av :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:45:59 anialator: Yeah I know :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:02 Zorg: lowbies will be getting free items as they level, that should keep them entertained
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:08 Scott: Has this come from Ross with his time in gang ideas ...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:10 DBall13: entire sessionn
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:17 bcfcespley: i meant for winning wl XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:19 KevinMp: ahh ok answered one of my questions before i even asked :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:37 bcfcespley: if a gang wins wl, give them like 10% bonus from jobs for 90 days
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:45 Jobu: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:47 Tibos:  Potential PROBLEM: the gangs need to know their standing before the start of the next round in order to decide where to start. SOLUTION: Delay the reward for one full round, giving two/three weeks for each gang leader to submit the choice.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:48 anialator: no
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:52 anialator: God god no
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:52 Zorg: yes more creditsi n the game, that's what we need &gt;.&lt;
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:55 Food: That's a bad idea bcfc, people will just flock to the winning gang.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:46:56 Toyic: NO
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:03 Scott: hmm,
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:05 Tibos: this also fixes the win once win everytime problem somewhat
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:10 bcfcespley: hence the being in the gang for 90 days!! XD XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:14 inFamous: @ Food have it only to people who were there maybe when they won?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:19 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:24 Scott: Tibos you done? :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:28 KevinMp: BoD's turn now :X xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:33 darp: Sounds like a new thread: WL incentive.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:33 Tibos: if the idea is rejected, yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:41 Food: That still is a problem, the winning gang will still continue to grow and get more powerful.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:45 Platypus: Tibos or this, have the gang leaders give the coords they want before the end of the map, all 4
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:47 Zorg: any rewards for winning gangs are rejected at this time yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:51 darp: We had one of our topics covered with the new sub/clothing discussion.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:47:53 Platypus: that way winner already has their spot chosen
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:00 Scott: Ok BoD except KEvinMp please
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:06 KevinMp: Waa! xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:13 inFamous: i say clothing for winning gangs only
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:15 darp: So reps are figuring out what to put forward, but our other point.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:39 darp: Zorg: is there anything we can do to overhaul improve suggestions getting to implementation.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:50 Toyic: ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:58 Zorg: hire a team of developers?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:48:59 darp: Like a voting system.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:00 Scott: He means suggestion forums being looked at more
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:03 anialator: Yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:09 Jobu: like Pets
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:09 Scott: Problem is
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:10 darp: Ok, there's one thing we can do!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:16 Zorg: I can look at them, I can't implement them though :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:16 Scott: Things are repeated so many times
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:24 Scott: it's like pulling teeth
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:31 darp: OK, is there any way to improve things so that you can look at them more easily then?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:36 bcfcespley: Ok my suggestion to zorg was...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:44 bcfcespley: Get the top 5 hardest things to code from DTD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:46 darp: I think we tried having someone summarize and present to you once.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:47 anialator: It would be nice if Zorg could go in and personally lock a thread with a description as to why it will not be added
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:49 bcfcespley: put them in a vote
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:52 Scott: ....
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:57 anialator: If you did that people would be more likely to just leave it alone
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:49:57 Scott: We're not having pets lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:00 Zorg: you make a suggestion I think... oh that's a cool idea, but I can't implement it for a long time because I'm working on other stuff :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:00 darp: Or more input from you directly in the threads, yes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:09 bcfcespley: no pets!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:16 Zorg: then most would be locked for "Working on more important stuff first..."
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:31 Scott: How about we remove suggestion forum for a year so Zorg can work :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:39 Toyic: STill, that would be preferable to no feedback.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:40 Food: Shut the suggestions forum down for now, until you play to use some of the idea.s
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:40 Scott: or wipe it and have a fresh start
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:44 anialator: Tehn a simple post of "Cool noted" would be good
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:45 Platypus: we should bring back the spam forum {3
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:49 Scott: Erm no
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:56 Scott: Spam forum broke stickies -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:57 KevinMp: platy thats the flame forum now :X xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:58 anialator: Wipe it?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:50:59 darp: Well, you do have quite a few things in the works.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:06 anialator: That could work...
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:08 darp: Still, you have also implemented some of the smaller sgestions this year.ug
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:32 Scott: I think small updates will be around :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:32 KevinMp: yeah, simple things :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:38 darp: So, leave Suggestions as is, then.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:39 Scott: Problem is suggestions isnt looked at
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:45 Zorg: small suggestions are fine but most of the time when i do them it's like
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:45 Scott: we're all busy and have a long todo list
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:52 Zorg: oh my god why aren't you working on the new combat system
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:53 Zorg: or whatever -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:55 Tibos: One awesome idea for suggestions is the "Thank
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:51:58 Tibos: " for posts
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:07 Scott: Zorg can we remove suggestions forum for a bit? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:14 Macey: yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:15 Scott: have another forum or something :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:18 Macey: you should be able to lock the forum
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:19 Platypus: we also should put hunting back upto 100% EXP gain
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:20 DMaster: Agreed
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:27 Macey: until you finish a project
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:28 Platypus: since taking a month per lvl is still retarded :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:30 darp: Heh. Well, maybe keep a permanent thread for the major things you are working on , and have a maybe spot underneath for the small stuff.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:30 Tibos: it could be used to gauge how much a certain suggestion is wanted by the community, besides the other uses mentioned in the thread
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:31 grzesiek17: YES Platypus
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:33 Macey: then reopen it after
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:41 dk16: They'll just post suggestions in main then.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:49 Macey: not if i can help it &gt;:(
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:49 Scott: FT will lock it :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:51 bcfcespley: ah zorg...dev?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:52 anialator: We may as well remove it for now
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:54 Scott: he lives in forums
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:56 KevinMp: suggestions are a natural thing. it cant be avoided
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:52:59 Macey: yeah FT 8)
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:00 Platypus: ?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:00 Platypus: why not delete it, so we don't have nothing but locked threads
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:05 Zorg: oh yeah I'll mention dev and the market in a bit
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:14 darp: Suggestion forum keeps people thinking and their fleeting hopes alive, though. :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:21 Zorg: We could just close the suggestions forum and have more regular legcons instead
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:26 Scott: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:29 Food: ^^
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:34 KevinMp: monthly legcon? 8O
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:34 Jobu: :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:36 defosage: I liek this
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:37 Scott: We have them every 3 months anyway :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:38 darp: We could try it.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:38 Tibos: leave the forum, put a big sticky saying "ZORG IS BUSY, SUGGESTIONS ARE DELAYED" and instruct the mods to lock threads on a very strict basis
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:40 Platypus: I think what should be brought to attention are the people who are either quitting, then making a new account and pretending to be new
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:40 Toyic: But...then won't gang forumns be full of suggestion threads?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:41 Scott: monthly ... no
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:41 Jobu: ug
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:46 007Ben: lets do it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:47 Scott: it takes 3 weeks just to set up 1
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:49 anialator: We have them every 3 months!?!?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:54 Scott: yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:54 bcfcespley: dont remove it... just lock it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:53:55 KevinMp: then 3 months :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:04 DMaster: A LegCon achieves more than suggestions forum do in a year xD should work
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:06 Zorg: I'll review the way I take suggestions anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:09 Zorg: it could be better
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:10 darp: ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:20 Scott: Are BoD done?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:21 Zorg: anything else?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:23 darp: That's what we were looking for.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:26 darp: Infamous has something.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:28 inFamous: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:31 KevinMp: yes he does -_- xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:32 inFamous:  Expo Removal: in the field hospital have the option remove expo while gang has the objective, Also in the hospital in hive have the option to choose how much expo you want to clear with a tab ranging 1-100% like when you are buying revival kits you can
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:42 anialator: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:42 inFamous: pick how much quantity you want to purchase
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:45 darp: I told him what you would say, Zorg. :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:54:49 anialator: Think about that realistically
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:05 Zorg: so the gang that controls the hospital doesn't get exposure? :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:08 Zorg: so can control it forever....
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:09 anialator: Walk into an exposure reducing machine and say "Oh i'd just like 32% off today please"
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:11 inFamous: no they do
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:13 bcfcespley: thats a good idea, but i remember zorg talking about healing abilities
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:21 KevinMp: he means that rather than "Remove Exposure"
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:21 inFamous: but they can remove expo while in the wl
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:24 Toyic: I don't like the second part, but I do the first part
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:33 KevinMp: there would be a "Remove 10% or Remove 20% dropdown menu
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:41 Tibos: blue pills are to remove less than full exposure
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:43 Zorg: that costs the same as bue pills?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:44 inFamous: instead of leaving hive to buy pills and whatnot.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:54 DBall13: wouldnt that deflate value of blue pills?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:55:55 Zorg: yeah that's possible
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:00 Zorg: there will not be a hospital in map 5 though
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:03 Zorg: so that can wait until later
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:03 Tibos: they wouldn't make sense if you could buy less than full expo removal from the hospital
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:05 Risque: You can buy pills in the wl, if you have the points :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:06 grzesiek17: I thought you can buy pills from WL
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:08 anialator: You dont have to lave the wl for pills
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:20 anialator: also NOOOOO Iwant to buy my vicodins already 0_0
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:24 darp: But pills are tradeable, is the difference.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:25 Risque: Via gang control &gt; gang shop
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:25 anialator: They already way overpriced XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:27 KevinMp: the field hospital just allows a spectrum of percentages
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:37 KevinMp: such as 5% 20% 50% etc etc
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:43 Zorg: all objectives can be reviewed when the new warfare / combat comes out anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:50 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:51 Zorg: ok is that all?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:51 Scott: done?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:54 KevinMp: i have one
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:54 darp: Yes.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:56:59 darp: Grrr.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:00 KevinMp: darp first :O go ahead
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:03 Scott: I have a point about accounts... yay :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:04 Zorg: need to mention this Dev stuff before we're finished
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:04 DBall13: cus leaving wl is so hard? i buy pills cus its a smaller %
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:07 darp: No, I'm done.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:09 anialator: 100% or nothing
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:16 inFamous: Also in the hive i get annoyed when i can remove exposure for x ammount of points, but i dont have that many. I want to click it and it will remove as many point as you currently have and remove that percentage of Exposure
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:33 Zorg: yes that can be built in to the hospital
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:38 Zorg: the wl hospital anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:41 KevinMp: If someone has finished a job, AKA 2000 jobs, could there be a potential reward at all?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:42 Zorg: as a perk of having it
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:57:53 KevinMp: Some kinf of permanent or continuing perk?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:02 mohith: KevinMp it's called retirement.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:09 inFamous: or a Drop down menu where you can pick how much you want removed so if you dont want 25% removed you can pick 10% or whatever.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:11 KevinMp: mohith shush D: xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:12 Tibos: you get +5c per job from that point on, compared to the 1999th job :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:14 Zorg: again possible but not right now
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:20 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:28 KevinMp: ok all set then on my part
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:32 Scott: Can I make this point quickly?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:33 Toyic: Which one is getting possible'd to?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:35 bcfcespley: yes the jobs i agree with!!
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:41 Macey: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:46 Zorg: what point? just go
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:49 Zorg: it's already late -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:58:55 anialator: {XD}
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:22 Scott: Alright basically before I was staff admin, basically it was go to LA or go to staff manager
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:29 dk16: It's not late, Big Ben says it's only 7pm.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:38 Scott: I'm changing it so it goes to a flow system so Player &gt; LA &gt; Me
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:41 anialator: heheheheh
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:45 Scott: Anyone have any issues with that :/?
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:48 Toyic: No.
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:51 inFamous: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:54 anialator: all good
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:54 Macey: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:55 007Ben: nope
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:57 KevinMp: cool
+<br> 2011-03-20 19:59:59 Scott: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:00 Scott: Go Zorg
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:02 Zorg: Ok
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:09 Zorg: Development Server is shutting down... kind of.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:13 Toyic: :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:14 anialator: OH GOD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:20 inFamous: Nice
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:21 007Ben: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:24 Goku: Oh no, Ilosttrust will be RUINED :*(
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:24 Zorg: We're going to reset it, and activate it only when we are specifically testing stuff.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:24 Shade: :OO
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:30 Macey: {8O}
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:31 anialator: BWAHAHAHA
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:34 Toyic: Ahh.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:35 007Ben: XD!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:37 Zorg: It will be up for a month or so at most at a time to test something new
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:37 anialator: Good thing I never got avatar
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:43 inFamous: ILosttrust is going to be pissed XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:44 Zorg: and we'll be enabling features like character copy from main &gt; dev
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:53 anialator: Sweet :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:54 Toyic: Oh, awesome!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:55 Food: Can I ask why dev is being shut down?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:00:56 Zorg: depending on what we're testing
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:01 Scott: That count for staff too O_o?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:08 Zorg: because it detracts from the main game and having it running permanently was never out intention
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:09 darp: RegLeg is king!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:10 grzesiek17: oh noes
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:17 grzesiek17: my 2,200,000credits :*(
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:18 Zorg: no staff can access it whenever, but it wil lbe periodically reset
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:20 anialator: Yeah, and it also gets stupidly inactive
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:23 Scott: I know staff use it as a escape from some RegLeg drama :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:38 anialator: They can go have an orgy to relieve stress
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:41 Jobu: no escape!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:41 Risque: It's safe to assume that we'll maintain our settings, etc. Just won't have access to them
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:45 anialator: a hot sexy staff orgy
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:47 bcfcespley: plus it spoils updates
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:50 Risque: Is that correct?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:01:51 Zorg: so when the new items are done.... we will enable dev, announce it is enabled, enable character copying to dev and reset it
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:01 Zorg: but only on updates we need player involvement in testing
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:06 Toyic: Will dev still be available only to avatars?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:07 dk16: I got to av and then never logged onto it again, I've had my fun there.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:11 darp: And all players could access?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:15 Zorg: yes only to avatars
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:16 007Ben: yes toyic
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:23 anialator: HAH!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:26 anialator: ahem...
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:27 Tibos: since it is only for testing purposes, could we maybe edit our accounts?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:34 Tibos: level/stats/items?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:40 anialator: NO
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:42 Zorg: basically instead of a hardly ever active dev server... we're going to have a dev server that every now and again will go crazy with people
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:49 anialator: Maybe staff could?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:02:58 Scott: Staff will through me :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:04 anialator: When reset we could be put at the level that needs to be tested
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:10 anialator: or just set the items to level 1
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:21 Tibos: i remember spending 2 hours testing some stuff back with the stat system redesign just because it was hard to get the correct stats
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:22 Platypus: just transfer all of our data over :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:42 Zorg: So it will shutdown some time this week and then come back up with the new warfare map and character copying ready to go in a week or so
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:52 anialator: Hot
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:55 Tibos: sounds goo
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:56 Zorg: so players can come test out the new map pre-release
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:03:59 Tibos: *d
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:01 Risque: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:02 anialator: Teehee :3
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:07 007Ben: aww yeah
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:09 Toyic: :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:12 Toyic: I need to get avatar now
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:20 anialator: Yes
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:24 Zorg: Also the market price guide lines have been scrapped
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:28 Toyic: :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:31 Gavrebel: Dev BoD will be so disappointed to hear that
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:32 DMaster: So what will happen about staff accounts.. will we keep our dev level or our level 5 staff level? xD  :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:34 darp: Zorg: Are you going to make a thread for ideas on how to use the new sub?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:34 Tibos: excellent :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:35 007Ben: :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:36 Platypus: I need to buy sub to sell
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:39 Platypus: before it's not worth as much :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:43 Zorg: Put stuff on the market for whatever price you want, we haven't decided what to do about storage slots yet though
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:43 Toyic: So, is market unregulated now?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:04:49 Scott: DMaster they will be reset but we'll offer a higher level for staff I bet :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:17 anialator: People who bought lots of storage are gonna be so pissed :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:19 Zorg: we may remove and refund storage slots as we move to the new system
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:25 anialator: Or not
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:26 Scott: Only thing regulated on Market by staff is the image size and 1.0, 1.1 in the description
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:33 defosage: but what would you do with untradeable stuff then?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:36 bcfcespley: i got like 130 slots 8)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:39 Toyic: Ah.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:40 007Ben: what about items that are untradeable?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:42 Toyic: What about untradable stuff?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:45 defosage: I don't want it cluttering up my inventory o.o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:47 007Ben: could you put those on the market?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:48 Zorg: I can't guarantee you'll get their full value back but you will get some compensation for the ones you purchased with subscription
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:49 Platypus: wait a second..
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:52 Platypus: what abvout untradable stuff?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:54 Platypus: ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:05:55 anialator: Refund everyone who bought EXTRA slots, but allow them to repurchase them
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:04 007Ben: aww yeah, platypus XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:19 anialator: So we would still have storage
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:20 Zorg: yeah I could build storing untradable stuff in to the regular market i guess
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:31 Toyic: :/ I guess.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:54 Zorg: I just never liked the price guide lines per item and the only reason the "no storing in market" thing existed was so people would buy expanded inventory space :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:06:59 Zorg: which is just lame
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:05 Shade: keep the storage slots, people will use to place items like Deeg/Pie Candys that they don't want to keep in their inventorys
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:15 Food: Why not just keep storage and remove the market cap, if people wish to still use storage, so be it.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:18 Scott: Deeg candy is moldy by now :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:23 Zorg: Could just give everyone 200 storage slots for free and remove the ability to purchase them
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:27 defosage: but still tasty, I bet!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:35 Platypus: yes zorg
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:37 Platypus: yes you can xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:40 007Ben: thats good
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:42 anialator: Food the problem was that people who bought storage space they did not need would be pissed
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:45 Toyic: Would that affect your sub sales, though?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:54 Tibos: ani, they will be refunded ;)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:54 dk16: 200? So I can fit 200 cakes now?! :D
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:54 Macey: My deeg candy looks tasty still :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:55 Platypus: Toyic he's removing sub
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:07:58 Platypus: and doing soething else
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:01 anialator: Very little compared to when he brings in the sub currency toyic
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:06 mohith: dk16 storage is stackable. :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:12 Platypus: I discarded my Pie candy
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:13 Macey: so does my pie candy
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:14 Scott: For cake it isnt
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:14 Zorg: Ideally it would be nice to expand inventories a bit more anyway but my god I don't want to touch that javascript :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:15 Platypus: since i dind't like pie
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:21 anialator: What? I thought this currency was going alongside sub?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:22 mohith: Is that so. :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:28 Toyic: No, sub is being scrapped.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:31 Scott: Then don't code it so horribly!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:34 bcfcespley: ani are you drunk?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:35 Toyic: But it's still essentially the same thing
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:45 anialator: hahahaha
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:51 anialator: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:53 Scott: I swear toyic and ani are sat right next to each other :/
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:54 Macey: I also have 3 T.Brushes
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:55 anialator: &gt;.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:08:56 dk16: Javascript is just an ugly language.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:00 Toyic: We're multis of eachother
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:04 anialator: We're actually having gay butt sex right now
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:04 Platypus: Hey Zorg..I can't move my items into the final row of my inventory
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:11 defosage: javascript is fun :X
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:11 007Ben: XD!!!
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:14 Tibos: use classic inventory :P
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:18 Zorg: -_-
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:18 mohith: anialator O_0
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:21 Scott: Right
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:23 Toyic: Is it hawt, ani?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:23 Scott: anyway
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:25 Platypus: so this has happened before? :O
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:26 anialator: ooooh ooooh ooooh oooh
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:26 Tibos: Zorg just said he doesn't want to touch it XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:27 Scott: Are we done?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:30 Zorg: yeah I'm done that's everything for now
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:30 Macey: No
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:31 anialator: *SPLURT*
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:34 Scott: Alright
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:39 Toyic: Oh wow. Right in my eardrum.
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:39 Macey: never finished
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:40 Macey: ever
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:40 Scott: I will post the points and logs
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:44 Scott: on Wednesday
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:46 Zorg: That javascript inventory stuff is the work of satan
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:51 mohith: lol
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:56 Scott: as college feels the need to give me 12 hour days on Monday and Tuesday
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:09:57 Risque: Ok, thanks Scott
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:03 anialator: Inventory age is bugged and has been forever
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:06 Food: I'm off then, thanks staff for hosting this as always. &lt;3
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:07 Zorg: how I got it to work I don't know but I'm sure it involved a wrench and some duct tape
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:10 anialator: whenever i use it I cant scroll accross the page
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:14 Platypus: I haved 3 items stuck there XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:17 Platypus: all 3 from christmas XD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:19 Scott: Thank you for turning up, your points should help
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:24 Zorg: get a proper browser anialator
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:26 Scott: All will be unsilenced :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:29 Macey: lol Should help xD
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:31 Risque: Thaks for LegCon :)
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:35 Risque: *thanks
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:36 Scott: and Zorg will remove your special status
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:38 anialator: NEVER
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:39 Tibos: this has got to generate the biggest TODO List in all the LegCons
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:40 Zorg: wait can't scroll ACROSS the page?
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:40 Toyic: I've neve rhad issues with inventory :o
+<br> 2011-03-20 20:10:42 Scott: End of LegCon!
+<span class="boxtitle">Finish: 2011-03-20 20:10:42</span>
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